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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by formerly_proven » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:45 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #522

themgt wrote: post #512

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If you don't believe Gaza's health ministry, how about Agence France-Presse? The journalists' association of the French wire service Agence France-Presse (AFP) warned on Monday that staff working with the agency in Gaza are at risk of starvation and that "without intervention, the last reporters in Gaza will die." In the statement, the SDJ said that AFP's journalists in Gaza have warned that they no longer have stren…

I wasn’t aware of that media outlet, just FYI (and to reinforce your point) it seems that while there is a significant left bias, generally AFP’s journalism is considered reliable and credible. https://www.allsides.com/news-source/afp-fact-check-media-bi... Are reporters taking food from Gaza’s or, how is that distributed?

AFP is like the third biggest news agency on this planet and you're linking to bothsides.bad?!

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by rhcom2 » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:45 PM UTC

orblivion wrote: post #505

simlevesque wrote: post #452

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You just proved you can't name any cruft. It was a simple question.

I deliberately did not answer your question. I refuse to get into the weeds because I reject your premise. I don't know anything about the inner workings of these organizations. (It's really not a "simple question" at all!) It's not my job, I'm just a voter. I have other things to do. You seem to want me to assume that because of this, I have to default to YOUR position. I'm saying, that doesn't match my broad view o…

Even if that guy has a history of grifting and didn't do it in his first 4 year chance?

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by kennywinker » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:46 PM UTC

BigJ1211 wrote: post #518

kennywinker wrote: post #314

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UNICEF’s mission is “providing humanitarian and developmental aid to children worldwide” Children in gaza are being intentionally starved by israel blocking food aid. At least 15 people including one infant have been starved to death in the past 24 hours. UNESCO’s mission is preservation of cultural heritage. Gaza and the west bank are being ethnically cleansed, and their arts and culture have already been physically…

They've been making that claim since the start of the conflict, including calling it a genocide. There have been an overwhelming amount of articles that later had to be retracted about Israel shooting at aid distribution centers. Not a single video of IDF soldiers shooting at them has been shown. Unless I get to see actual evidence, I'm not inclined to believe this claim. I see articles report things like: "Since the…

Upgrading from “i don’t believe hamas doctors” to “i don’t believe UN doctors” even when there IS video just not good enough video? Jesus.

I understand healthy skepticism, but the healthy skeptical response would be “lets get more oversight into place” not “it’s all lies until i see the right video”

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by braiamp » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:46 PM UTC

thaumasiotes wrote: post #335

criddell wrote: post #3

What are UNESCO's "divisive cultural and social causes"?

The announcement calls out two things, admission of Palestine as a member state and the Sustainable Development Goals. The Goals are defined here: https://sdgs.un.org/goals > Target 1.4: By 2030, ensure that all men and women, in particular the poor and the vulnerable, have equal rights to economic resources, as well as access to basic services, ownership and control over land and other forms of property, inheritance…

> I wouldn't call this an ideologically neutral set of goals

What would you call it? I mean, none of it sounds like something you can make a argument that it shouldn't be achieved at all. In fact, I would question the ideology of someone that wouldn't want to achieve those goals.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by taylodl » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:46 PM UTC

breppp wrote: post #531

kennywinker wrote: post #251

The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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I understand the frustration with Hamas, but I think it's important to consider the reality on the ground. Most Palestinians in Gaza are unarmed, displaced, and struggling to survive under extreme conditions - with limited food, water, and medical care. Expecting them to rise up against a heavily armed and entrenched group like Hamas, especially while under bombardment, seems unrealistic. It's not that they don't want change - it's that they lack the means and safety to pursue it. I think we should be careful not to blame civilians for the actions of those in power, especially when they’re already suffering so much.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by s5300 » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:47 PM UTC

breppp wrote: post #531

kennywinker wrote: post #251

The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by bigcat12345678 » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:47 PM UTC

kindkang2024 wrote: post #500

kennywinker wrote: post #251

The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by dijit » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:47 PM UTC

formerly_proven wrote: post #541

dijit wrote: post #522

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I wasn’t aware of that media outlet, just FYI (and to reinforce your point) it seems that while there is a significant left bias, generally AFP’s journalism is considered reliable and credible. https://www.allsides.com/news-source/afp-fact-check-media-bi... Are reporters taking food from Gaza’s or, how is that distributed?

AFP is like the third biggest news agency on this planet and you're linking to bothsides.bad?!

AFP is previously unknown to me, and yes I did because its actually reinforcing the parents point about being a reliable source.

Maybe read before commenting, or perhaps allow people to be ignorant and admit that openly; jumping down my throat because I don’t already know your favourite news outlet solves what exactly?

(also don’t think I don’t see the irony of your bio being: “I usually don't know what I'm talking about.”)

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by dismalaf » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:48 PM UTC

kennywinker wrote: post #251

The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by Sparkle-san » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 4:48 PM UTC

Workaccount2 wrote: post #326

Sparkle-san wrote: post #117

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Most people didn't actually care about the culture war and wanted to focus on the economy. Unfortunately those people also failed to absorb the fact that the fast-talking grifter was in fact grifting them into supporting him by lying that he is a master of the economy.

The democrats losing support of hispanics, blacks, and men under 50 in the 2024 election is directly a function of the culture war. If you insist on using the term "Latinx" and every Latino tells you that you are a self righteous idiot, listen to them . If you run the slogan "defund the police" despite inner city populations being the most in favor of police funding, listen to them . If you push the phrase "toxic mas…

Having met several of them, the people who use terms like latinx, toxic masculinity, and defund the police aren't even democrats and hold almost as much antipathy towards them as they do towards republicans.

The polls speak for themselves. Why would hispanics suddenly be turning on Trump? Is he now pushing latinx himself or is he actually not good at the things he claimed he was gonna be good at?

Polling on the issues: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/09/09/issues-and-t... https://news.gallup.com/poll/651719/economy-important-issue-...

Recently support polling: Latinos - https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/03/somos-votanes-poll-...