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The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

…says the Hamas-run health ministry . Nothing to see here, no conflicts of interest. Let’s trust the people who kidnapped babies and raped and pillaged their way across southern israel.

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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What year is it, 2017? https://2017-2021.state.gov/the-united-states-withdraws-from... Boring, been here before. UNESCO and world moved on. With some notable declarations like Demoscene and Techno music being added in a number of countries. Too bad those couldn't be added to a US registry also.

Or maybe, 2011? https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2011/11/1/us-halts-unesco... (Yes, Obama did it first)

Context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44648410

Congress locked obama into doing it.

I guess in today’s context where the executive treats the other two branches of gov as having a purely advisory role, this seems strange.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

…says the Hamas-run health ministry . Nothing to see here, no conflicts of interest. Let’s trust the people who kidnapped babies and raped and pillaged their way across southern israel.

To the best of my knowledge the doctors running the health ministry did not kidnap anybody.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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The hard truth is that for any deal—or broader cooperation—to succeed, both parties must benefit and perceive the deal as fair. Without mutual benefit, the cooperation underpinning the deal will not be stable.

> The United States Withdraws from UNESCO (state.gov)

Probably, the majority of people in the U.S. feel they are losing from these deals, which is why they are willing to withdraw. It is both the government’s prerogative and duty to manifest that will. As a non-American, I deeply respect that freedom and choice.

In fact, I believe that any administration has a duty to prioritize its own nation first—whether it's called "America First," "Palestinian First," "EU First," "China First," or any other national equivalent. This is a principle that every country should embrace. It's natural for governments to prioritize the interests of their own citizens, as they are funded by taxpayers and must be accountable to them.

And, To be "First", they need beneficial cooperation and compete wisely. Competition, driven by 'ego love,' along with cooperation, fueled by 'world love,' is the righteous way to "Make All Great Again."

These ideas are rooted in ecological and evolutionary principles. While "survival of the fittest" drives competition, it also paradoxically fosters the evolution of cooperation, as even the fittest depend on reciprocal relationships to truly thrive. is a Book by Robert Axelrod

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UN is dysfunctional because the US blocks every good thing it tries to do like the abomination of the security council vetoing resolutions to stop the US backed genocide in Gaza.

It’s a bit incomplete to bring up Security Council vetoing without mentioning Russia (currently at war with a sovereign nation) and China (intent on war with a sovereign nation). The UNSC isn’t an arbitrator of good, but an alignment of hard UN outcomes with the first countries to have nukes (and therefore the ability to force the issue militarily if they disagreed with the UN).

> China (intent on war with a sovereign nation).

This is not proven. Why would China want to wreck Taiwan? Official US, Taiwanese, and Mainland China policy is that there is one China. Taiwan is like Texas being a breakaway republic run by confederates in the USA, though the culture has evolved in a more progressive direction (more progressive than USA) since the original breakup.

> It’s a bit incomplete to bring up Security Council vetoing without mentioning Russia (currently at war with a sovereign nation)

I'll give you that's bad, but at least it's a fight between nations and not a genocide. I believe the U.S. instigated this fight by advancing NATO territory eastward and my position is there should be peace negotiations immediately.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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This administration has zero ability to build or bring people together, able only to destroy what others have made. On the bright side, it isn't effective until December 31, 2026 so there is plenty of time to chicken out.

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What they are actually doing is deliberately entrenching an authoritarian ethno-nationalist regime.

I don’t think one can say that any of their decisions are rationally made for the benefit of anyone but themselves and their supporters.

The idea that these are smart people just optimizing cruft is delusional. The current administration meets most of the elements of fascism.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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The US is complicit in the intentional starvation of gaza’s people by israel. At least 15 people have starved to death in the last 24 hours, including an infant. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-war-hunger-childre... Ragequitting UNESCO over their recognition of palestine is a small part of the project of supporting the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the west bank.

…says the Hamas-run health ministry . Nothing to see here, no conflicts of interest. Let’s trust the people who kidnapped babies and raped and pillaged their way across southern israel.

Genocide denial is a bad look.
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