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The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

duesabati wrote: post #6

> America First > anti-Israel American Government became the parody of itself, so sad

You have to sign a document saying you won't boycott Israel, academic journals cancel editions which talk about Palestine, you can't be part of UNESCO for Israel. You can't write a college article critical of Israel or we'll kidnap you off the streets into an unmarked van. You can't be a business and not give a contract to Israel or your employee will tip off the Anti Boycott Office against you. Your Congressmen wear Israeli military fatigues into the Congress. Your mayoral candidates have to pledge fealty to Israel.

We aren't Israeli citizens. Why are we treated like we are?

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Post by Avshalom »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #91
lvl155 wrote: post #40

And it’s wild to think that more than 1/3 of the devs I’ve met in my life support this admin. These are seemingly smart people. The past 10 years or so made me realize I don’t know anything about human nature or intellect. Edit: I am in no way saying conservatism is bad and liberalism is good. I have my values in both.

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The Democratic Party lost to Trump, not "the left" and they lost based on either: not opposing the genocide in Gaza or because even ostensibly progressive voters won't vote for a black woman; there's only two data driven possibilities and neither of them is "culture war/identity politics has just gone nauseatingly overboard"

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Post by jajko »

Insanity wrote: post #112
saubeidl wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being good at math or engineering doesn't make you good at empathy, sociology, politics or any number of other functions.

Agreed, however, people with a good education _usually_ learn think intelligently about a variety of problems. By which I mean, they understand how to fact check sources, how to think critically about information presented to them, and how to validate their own assumptions. Edit: removing a sentence that came across as offensive.

First part yes, second hell no, why the heck the need to do such baseless attacks. We have plenty of sociopathic a-holes in Europe as well, I'd say more than plenty on all levels of society in all countries.

Re: The United States withdraws from UNESCO

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Post by glitchc »

lvl155 wrote: post #40

And it’s wild to think that more than 1/3 of the devs I’ve met in my life support this admin. These are seemingly smart people. The past 10 years or so made me realize I don’t know anything about human nature or intellect. Edit: I am in no way saying conservatism is bad and liberalism is good. I have my values in both.

The online space (Reddit, HN, others) is so deeply embedded with groupthink that people have lost the ability to see other points of view or debate topics of interest.

To me it's very clear why the government is leaving UNESCO (and over time the UN at large). The UN is dysfunctional and does not work. It used to be a source of soft power for the States, but hasn't been so for the better part of this century. Meanwhile, the US continues to fund it even though it is currently running a massive deficit. It doesn't make sense to continue throwing good money after bad, especially when funds are scarce. Let other nations pick up the funding slack. Likely they will not and the UN will collapse, as it should. Something new can be built from its ashes. Many people agree with this rather pragmatic view.

If you want to have a discussion, debate the points I made above instead of hurling insults and ad hominem attacks.

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