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Deeply, deeply deranged to suggest that Israel—a $600B economy—is "wagging the dog" of our $30,500B economy.
AIPAC is the most powerful lobby in Washington. And money get's you anything in politics.
The United States withdraws from UNESCO
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
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> There is no context that justifies UNESCO focussing on criticism of Israel's self defence, as opposed to focussing on Hamas's attrocity that started the war (or Putin etc) Sure there is. Only one is still actively happening, and it's the one that's killed 20-60x as many civilians, depending on whose estimates you follow. > There is no context that justifies UNESCO rebranding Jewish holy places as “Palestinian World…
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#105What are UNESCO's "divisive cultural and social causes"?
UNESCO is against the US-backed Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people, and is against the theft of Palestinian land. That's it - they simply don't support murdering children.
> UNESCO is against the US-backed Israeli genocide ... they simply don't support ...
That means, per IHRA, UNESCO is anti-semitic. Makes sense as anti-semitism is a problem worth tearing all post WW2 diplomacy and institutions up.
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#106And it’s wild to think that more than 1/3 of the devs I’ve met in my life support this admin. These are seemingly smart people. The past 10 years or so made me realize I don’t know anything about human nature or intellect. Edit: I am in no way saying conservatism is bad and liberalism is good. I have my values in both.
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I don't think you realize that the Culture War is originating from the Right, and that it's a tar trap for those on the Left.
More so, that the whole point of this War is to foster anger and division, so that we squabble amongst ourselves rather than the elite who own us all.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why fantasize that the GOP isn't going to do a Putin/Erdogan/Suharto? Those countries have "democratic" elections and keep electing the same president, they must be hella great guys!
The optimistic case is that while they made noise about election fraud in 2020 no one was organized enough to try for a coup then, and it's not clear if they'll be able to get organized in time for 28
Or, they could attempt that convoluted plan to have a legal third mandate by electing a president and vice that then resign to appoint Trump.
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#108From 2023, the program and budget for 2024/2025 showing priorities etc. https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000385118
Palestine was mentioned once in that document.
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#109This seems to be a political back and forth (beginning with the admittance of palestine in the past)... (from wikipedia) U.S. (and Israel) left UNESCO in 2018, but the United States rejoined in 2023. I presume U.S. has left again now in 2025. [edit: kind of surprised this hasn't been flagged, but sadly indicative of HN's bias.]
Interesting context
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#110I really hope the next president will be able to undo this fucking mess... otherwise the US is probably never going to catch back up to what it used to be. Voters made a terrible mistake.
If I may suggest the following edit:
> I really hope a future Congress will undo this fucking mess... otherwise the US is probably never going to catch back up to what it used to be. Voters made a terrible mistake.
Putting too much power into the president is part of the problem.