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What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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not just an ocean, the various governments and visas make it hard to move people you need

Not just people, parts too. Importing parts from the USA to the UK often takes longer and has more paperwork than from China.

Also don't forget tolls / tariffs. Building products that relies on parts from different countries (at least from/to USA) reduces the margins compared to a unified Chinese market.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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I have recalled S/N powerbank which was bought in another country Anker shop. Unfortunately Anker doesn't allow me to participate recall because I have no buy proof. How many people keep those for powerbanks? They have Anker stores in my country, however there is no way to exchange it in any way. I would be happy to at least have some discout on a new bank, but no.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Yep. Anything I get from China, even from a vendor I have done lots of business with in the past gets at minimum random samples inspected and tested when appropriate. Every single shipment, zero exceptions before use. So many things are caught. At best there is a lack of QA on the Chinese side, but it's definitely worse than that. They have no qualms sending you known-bad items, and just see it as "maybe the customer…

I have family in the auto industry, and they have similar stories. They'll get a shipment and it'll be out of spec. So they contact the vendor and the vendor will just say, "No, they're fine. Parts are good." No, they're out of spec and you need to fix them. Look, I can show you. "No, parts are good." And you'll go around and around like that. They won't care and won't budge. Until you say, "Well, since these are out…

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Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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>"Americans will happily cheat you as well." I did not have too much experience with US manufacturers. I however can talk about Canada and Brasil. My experience with Brasil was stellar. Canada - you better fucking watch. As for China - I did order directly high power DC/DC converters. Those were available in the US and China. China came 10 times cheaper ($25 vs $250 apiece). The devices where we have installed those…

Chinese manufacturing 10+ years ago is completely different to Chinese manufacturing in 2025. the other comment about "zero trust" is significantly more apt

It’s always different 10 years ago, though, isn’t? Everything is. Rose colored glasses and all.

I remember these exact same “Chinese quality” threads 10 years ago and they read pretty much the same as this one, complete with the “well 10 years ago I got great stuff” and “yeah 10 years ago was different”.

Cycles, man. Cycles.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Interestingly from the photo of the device on the recall notice [3], this device doesn't include the C3 mark, which is the regulatory approval marker for inside China.

In the last couple of weeks, there's been a lot of noise [1] about how the regulations [2] about carrying power banks on planes in China got a lot stricter and any powerbank without a C3 mark is prohibited on-board, regardless of size, also any device with the C3 mark that's subject to a recall.

Given the timing of these two events, I suspect that there's some relationship.

[1] https://www.travelandtourworld.com/news/article/flying-with-...

[2] https://english.beijing.gov.cn/latest/news/202506/t20250628_...

[3] https://www.anker.com/a1263-recall

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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I have family in the auto industry, and they have similar stories. They'll get a shipment and it'll be out of spec. So they contact the vendor and the vendor will just say, "No, they're fine. Parts are good." No, they're out of spec and you need to fix them. Look, I can show you. "No, parts are good." And you'll go around and around like that. They won't care and won't budge. Until you say, "Well, since these are out…

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Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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Yes, Lumafield does some of my favorite marketing ever. It adds more (absolute) value to the world than they receive back from it. Their monthly CT scans are some of my favorite small joys: https://www.scanofthemonth.com/ I mean, there's probably very good ROI on this marketing; I'm not saying they're foolish or selfless. Just that it doesn't cost them that much to do, so it's a win-win for everyone.

But will it blend? actually no let's not blend the lithium, forbidden inhaled powder

Interestingly, I ended up buying a Blendtec blender many years later when I could afford one because of those YouTube videos. They long-since stopped making them when I finally got one.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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I wish more devices took field-replaceable cylindrical Li-ion cells. They're pretty common in flashlights and rare in other products where they would be advantageous.

There's a flurry of battery holders that accept 21700 cells, but the power delivery is just too weak IMHO. From memory, the max output was about 20~30W for the bigger models [0]. For 2 cell types it gives 10W, so barely good enough to slowly charge a smartphone. https://www.amazon.co.jp/PLCPDM/dp/B0DFPKXQZ1

You can get these for 18650s as well.

Most of them use rails though, so different cell chemistries are a bit of a risk over time.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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I work in manufacturing in the US. Incoming quality control, for Chinese vendors, is necessarily set up with zero-trust. This isn't a "trust but verify" sort of thing, it's strictly "do not trust". Assume that, at every step of the chain, there will be a lie: change of process, material change, collected data, and that the product being given to you is even yours (delivering a knockoff at the final step, and resellin…

Yep. Anything I get from China, even from a vendor I have done lots of business with in the past gets at minimum random samples inspected and tested when appropriate. Every single shipment, zero exceptions before use. So many things are caught. At best there is a lack of QA on the Chinese side, but it's definitely worse than that. They have no qualms sending you known-bad items, and just see it as "maybe the customer…

It's always good to check your vendors. I wouldn't limit it to Chinese vendors only. I have experienced similar issues with American or European vendors. Americans are pretty bad a fix spec issues compared to Europeans.

Re: What went wrong inside recalled Anker PowerCore 10000 power banks?

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I have family in the auto industry, and they have similar stories. They'll get a shipment and it'll be out of spec. So they contact the vendor and the vendor will just say, "No, they're fine. Parts are good." No, they're out of spec and you need to fix them. Look, I can show you. "No, parts are good." And you'll go around and around like that. They won't care and won't budge. Until you say, "Well, since these are out…

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We're talking about culture differences about perception of accountability. Not necessary but definitely on topic.
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