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Re: How to Firefox

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I had no idea how many ads load the average page. I just forgot because I have been using uBlock for so long.

I have been hesitant to use Firefox, just because I am used to chrome. But after Google forcibly disabled software that I chose to run, I'm all in on Firefox.

Re: How to Firefox

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I really struggled going back to Firefox after being a Chrome user for so long, it just feels so incredibly slow in comparison - I know it's probably just perception but I couldn't shake that feeling. I ended up going with Brave. Once you turn off their crummy VPN and crypto advert it's effectively just google chrome with a built in ad blocker. I know there were arguments/concerns about the crypto thing, but I did a…

I don't know if it's just me but in my case the problem isn't really the crypto bs, but rather Brendan Eich himself.

As much as Mozilla and Firefox can be criticized for both technical and non-technical reasons, at least I share the same core values. I don't seem to share any core value with Brave or its creator. Plus, yeah, still smells like Google :)

Re: How to Firefox

#103

Firefox was my main browser after Chrome MV3 stuff, but now I'm moving to Orion by Kagi. I found, on my Macbook M1, Firefox hog the battery a lot seen from the energy impact on Mac's activity monitor (average 12hr power >1000 compared to Orion ~350). Don't expect extensions to work well on Orion, though, but I can live with it for now.

It supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions. Vimium works flawlessly.

Re: How to Firefox

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I really struggled going back to Firefox after being a Chrome user for so long, it just feels so incredibly slow in comparison - I know it's probably just perception but I couldn't shake that feeling. I ended up going with Brave. Once you turn off their crummy VPN and crypto advert it's effectively just google chrome with a built in ad blocker. I know there were arguments/concerns about the crypto thing, but I did a…

Give us an example where Chrome is faster than Firefox, so we can see if it is more important than having uBlock Origin. I use both Firefox and Chrome for work and haven't noticed any speed differences (without measuring).

I suspect part of it might be interactive-ity with the event loop: let me explain.

I regularly have to use web browsers (I try and want to use Firefox, but Chrome is faster for me in this scenario) on an under-provisioned (yes I know, but I don't have any control over that!) VM which runs VDI sessions on both Linux and Windows (with VMWare on Windows).

On both Windows and Linux, Firefox's UI (in this CPU-constrained env - it fluctuates, and sometimes is okay, but often is slow) in terms of UI interaction is very notice-ably much slower than Chrome, especially when there's animated content in the document. It seems like Firefox prioritizes thread-wise the HTML/JS content at the expense of any UI signals/presses/drags or other interaction, and so sometimes clicking close tab does nothing for > 30 seconds, but animated content within the document keeps playing perfectly.

Chrome does none of this (on same VM machines) with same content: I click the close button, and instantly a tab closes, or I can drag a tab around instantly.

Re: How to Firefox

#105

I switched after Manifest v3. I won’t go back to Chrome as long as it limits ad-blocking, but I do miss its speed. Firefox takes a long time to open (especially when you have a lot of extensions). Even with the same number of extensions, Chrome opens in a jiffy. There are other areas of slowdown as well. Sometimes I hit Control+D to bookmark a page and nothing happens. At first I thought maybe I was doing something w…

Oof, a delay that long should not happen. Might be worth reporting at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org, ideally with a profile attached (see https://profiler.firefox.com/)?

Re: How to Firefox

#106

I am surprised how many people have so many problems with Firefox. I've never felt impeded by loading speeds, and my ADHD regularly has me forgetting to restart it, to the tune of 100+ tabs open across multiple desktops. My wimply little MacBook Pro doesn't seem to mind. The only downside I've found is that, because so many people just default to "Chrome or nothing," there's occasionally sites that have bugs because,…

In two decades of using it (yep) I never had an issue. I used it on Linux, MacOS and Windows and I don't remember any issues whatsoever.

Re: How to Firefox

#107

I switched after Manifest v3. I won’t go back to Chrome as long as it limits ad-blocking, but I do miss its speed. Firefox takes a long time to open (especially when you have a lot of extensions). Even with the same number of extensions, Chrome opens in a jiffy. There are other areas of slowdown as well. Sometimes I hit Control+D to bookmark a page and nothing happens. At first I thought maybe I was doing something w…

Unless you're running it on 15+ year old hardware, it sounds like something is very wrong.

I've used Firefox / LibreWolf basically since it existed and can't remember any UI delays longer than a second.

Re: How to Firefox

#108

I am surprised how many people have so many problems with Firefox. I've never felt impeded by loading speeds, and my ADHD regularly has me forgetting to restart it, to the tune of 100+ tabs open across multiple desktops. My wimply little MacBook Pro doesn't seem to mind. The only downside I've found is that, because so many people just default to "Chrome or nothing," there's occasionally sites that have bugs because,…

> I've never felt impeded by loading speeds

Even if this was an issue I had noticed (which I hadn't), now that's out the door because no ad blocker in Chrome, so good luck loading all the ads and trackers before getting your content...

I can't believe people keep parroting that... Even if 'chrome is faster and more responsive than firefox' was not a controversial statement (and it very much is), 'chrome with ads is fast' is outright laughable...

Re: How to Firefox

#109

> Here’s something the iPhone isn’t getting anytime soon: honest-to-god browser extensions that you use on your desktop, also on your phone. This convinces me the author is not knowledgeable about current browser capabilities. They probably haven’t tried anything but Firefox in a long time. Orion runs desktop (Firefox) extensions on iOS, and is in many ways a breath of fresh air. Instead of parroting “all iOS browser…

The author is very clearly an Android user, so I'll give them some leeway on this. It's not like it's the crux of their opinion, it's just one extra layer. Also, until Orion is available on Windows and Linux, it's a no-go for a lot of people.

Re: How to Firefox

#110

This is pretty similar to my set up but I'm ready to quit Firefox because what feels like every few weeks they somehow manage to add new auto-enabled spyware. I regularly have to turn stuff off in "Firefox Data Collection and Use" and "Website Advertising Preferences" Recently I also started seeing ads in my address bar when typing stuff and saw they've added: "Suggestions from sponsors Support Firefox with occasiona…

Easiest solution is to just use LibreWolf on desktop and IronFox on Android.

They get rid of all the anti-privacy defaults.

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