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Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by soulofmischief »

energy123 wrote: post #27
soulofmischief wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If governments don't interfere, corporations and capitalists will. And they will not play fairly.

Is this supposed to be an argument that governments should force companies to implement nativist hiring policies.

I am replying to "Let every member of our species compete on a fair playing field without government interference, regardless of their birth circumstances", and have said nothing on nativism.

The quote I am replying to stands on its own regarding criticism. "Government" is supposed to just be The People, and preventing "government interference" becomes a dog whistle for "let the market do what it wants, if people with capital use it to further acquire capital at the expense of those without, so be it."

Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by thoroughburro »

geraldwhen wrote: post #40
breitling wrote: post #34

Canadian banks, telecoms, and even retail chains, have been shamelessly replacing Canadian workers with Indians for decades. At this point, a plurality of our new immigrants come from one or two states in India. I would challenge you to go to a coffee shop in any major city and try to find a Canadian worker. Not sure what the future is for a Canadian worker, but it's bleak.

Based on immigration rates and birth rates, Canada will be mostly Indian at some point in the future. The “future Canadian worker” is Indian.

The future Canadian worker is a Canadian with Indian ancestry, you no doubt mean.

Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by hunglee2 »

Revenue maximisation is an 'embedded imperative' of companies a capitalist system, so of course these jobs will be migrated to where they can be done most productively; they will then be automated as soon as the roles become simplified and the AI becomes more advanced.

This is neither 'right', not 'wrong' much less shameful; it is simply the logical extension of the socio-economic system we all willingly subscribe to. The only alternative, would be to establish different forms of community owned organisations (should all businesses be owned by employees?) allied with protectionism to prevent leaner, more efficient capitalist firms from outcompeting the co-ops.

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Post by [deleted] »

thoroughburro wrote: post #42
geraldwhen wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on immigration rates and birth rates, Canada will be mostly Indian at some point in the future. The “future Canadian worker” is Indian.

The future Canadian worker is a Canadian with Indian ancestry, you no doubt mean.

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Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by netbioserror »

thoroughburro wrote: post #42
geraldwhen wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on immigration rates and birth rates, Canada will be mostly Indian at some point in the future. The “future Canadian worker” is Indian.

The future Canadian worker is a Canadian with Indian ancestry, you no doubt mean.

You're assuming perfect assimilation happens. Otherwise you simply have a colony. If the colony outstrips the natives, they change the culture and eventually the governance of a place by right of conquest. Then they can change names and there's no denying it.

States encompass territory, but nations are defined by their people and culture.

Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by olowe »

GianFabien wrote: post #32

If Australia doesn't have the capabilities then why are the university campuses full of overseas students? So they can learn, return to their homelands and work at some outsourcing org? CBA like all large corporations don't care about their staff nor their customers. Their only priority is to pander to their shareholders and pay their executives ever larger salaries and perks. Government powers don't work. Lobbyists…

> If Australia doesn't have the capabilities then why are the university campuses full of overseas students?

Because it’s great business: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-27/australias-internatio...

Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by squigz »

netbioserror wrote: post #45
thoroughburro wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The future Canadian worker is a Canadian with Indian ancestry, you no doubt mean.

You're assuming perfect assimilation happens. Otherwise you simply have a colony. If the colony outstrips the natives, they change the culture and eventually the governance of a place by right of conquest. Then they can change names and there's no denying it. States encompass territory, but nations are defined by their people and culture.

"Perfect assimilation" doesn't seem like something that actually happens in reality.

Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by komali2 »

geraldwhen wrote: post #40
breitling wrote: post #34

Canadian banks, telecoms, and even retail chains, have been shamelessly replacing Canadian workers with Indians for decades. At this point, a plurality of our new immigrants come from one or two states in India. I would challenge you to go to a coffee shop in any major city and try to find a Canadian worker. Not sure what the future is for a Canadian worker, but it's bleak.

Based on immigration rates and birth rates, Canada will be mostly Indian at some point in the future. The “future Canadian worker” is Indian.

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Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by ahoka »

netbioserror wrote: post #45
thoroughburro wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The future Canadian worker is a Canadian with Indian ancestry, you no doubt mean.

You're assuming perfect assimilation happens. Otherwise you simply have a colony. If the colony outstrips the natives, they change the culture and eventually the governance of a place by right of conquest. Then they can change names and there's no denying it. States encompass territory, but nations are defined by their people and culture.

You might want to read up on Quebec.

Re: CBA hiring Indian ICT workers after firing Australians

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Post by komali2 »

hunglee2 wrote: post #43

Revenue maximisation is an 'embedded imperative' of companies a capitalist system, so of course these jobs will be migrated to where they can be done most productively; they will then be automated as soon as the roles become simplified and the AI becomes more advanced. This is neither 'right', not 'wrong' much less shameful; it is simply the logical extension of the socio-economic system we all willingly subscribe to…

Yup. The only alternative is what countries are trying right now, protectionist controls on immigration and tariffs to prevent companies from manufacturing elsewhere, or laws that require attempting to locally hire before hiring on visa (hilariously easy to circumvent). But that's in opposition to capitalism, which many big fans of that mode of production will quickly remind us. No regulation! Pure capitalism!

Can't have your cake and also eat it. This trend is one excellent example of the inherent, unsolvable issues with capitalism.

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