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Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

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Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

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It is instructive that we are seeing the results of DOGE's work: "The process took six hours Saturday night — much longer than it otherwise would have, because the threat-intelligence and incident-response teams have been cut by 65 percent as CISA slashed funding, Rose said."

I'm not sure which part pisses me off more: that tons of professionals lost their jobs and will likely not work in public service again because of it, or that through all that, they barely found any actual waste at all. A fucking farce.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

#52
post #7

Another day another vulnerability with Microsoft. I wonder if this will incentivize the countries to move faster with Linux. Probably not since there are so many of these breaches people just ignore them. I miss the old days when a breach involved someone breaking into the computer room and grabbing as many mag tapes as they can carry and run :)

Genuinely asking - is there a Linux alternative to Sharepoint? I couldn't care less if it was lit on metaphorical fire and dumped into the sea, but a lot of orgs using it extensively.

The same people will tell you GIMP is a serious competitor to Photoshop.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

#53

It is instructive that we are seeing the results of DOGE's work: "The process took six hours Saturday night — much longer than it otherwise would have, because the threat-intelligence and incident-response teams have been cut by 65 percent as CISA slashed funding, Rose said."

I'm not sure which part pisses me off more: that tons of professionals lost their jobs and will likely not work in public service again because of it, or that through all that, they barely found any actual waste at all. A fucking farce.

You're assuming their purpose was to find waste, it was not. Their purpose was to be the Chicago boys in DC.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

#54

It is instructive that we are seeing the results of DOGE's work: "The process took six hours Saturday night — much longer than it otherwise would have, because the threat-intelligence and incident-response teams have been cut by 65 percent as CISA slashed funding, Rose said."

I'm not sure which part pisses me off more: that tons of professionals lost their jobs and will likely not work in public service again because of it, or that through all that, they barely found any actual waste at all. A fucking farce.

This is what happens when Chesterton's fence is ignored...

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

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post #24

At the risk of massive downvotes, I have to admit that a small part of me wants this so that maybe corporations stop using Sharepoint as soon as possible. Seriously, I haven't used it since 2017, but every time I used it then it was the worst part of my day. I used to have a shirt that said SHarepoIT Happens that I would wear to work, and it seemed like the one thing I could get my coworkers agree on was that Sharepo…

Sorry to disappoint you, but Sharepoint isn't going to die.

This is actually a great day for Microsoft. People will come to their cloud solutions in troves after this and everyone will be happy. Maybe not everyone, but Microsoft for sure.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

#56
post #24

At the risk of massive downvotes, I have to admit that a small part of me wants this so that maybe corporations stop using Sharepoint as soon as possible. Seriously, I haven't used it since 2017, but every time I used it then it was the worst part of my day. I used to have a shirt that said SHarepoIT Happens that I would wear to work, and it seemed like the one thing I could get my coworkers agree on was that Sharepo…

to accommodate $MSFT shareholders downvotes, have my upvote :)

nevertheless, even NFS is better than sharepoint. At least, NFS works...

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

#57
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

O365 is a poor amalgamation of like 18 different things. Quite frankly I hope there isn't a true "alternative" to it. The reason orgs use Sharepoint is they are forced to if they use Microsoft. One drive is sharepoint, teams is sharepoint, sharepoint sites is sharepoint, etc... I'm sure all those things have better alternatives, but Microsoft shoves them down your throat when you license with them.

> Sharepoint is a poor amalgamation of like 18 different things. You’ve got it backwards. Everything M365 is an amalgamation of Entra, SharePoint, and Exchange.

Yes, thanks for the correction.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For collaborative documentation, there’s probably a bunch of alternatives. But SharePoint is the linchpin for Microsoft 365. Well technically SharePoint and Exchange. You can’t use any Microsoft 365 products without SharePoint. OneDrive uses SharePoint. Outlook Groups and Teams Channels create Microsoft 365 Groups. Every Microsoft 365 Group creates a SharePoint site. Microsoft Loop uses Microsoft SharePoint Embedded.…

Google Docs and Libre Office both produce compatible documents. There's really no reason to force one or the other. It's just conflating needs. Document editing and file storage are two different tasks. It's weird that people want everything integrated. It's not much effort to just drag and drop a file into G-Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox, box.com...

> It's not much effort to just drag and drop a file into … OneDrive …

See, there’s the problem. Once you touch anything M365, you’re using SharePoint.

People see SharePoint as a document collaboration tool. But, in reality, it’s real use is as a data storage platform.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

#59
post #7

Another day another vulnerability with Microsoft. I wonder if this will incentivize the countries to move faster with Linux. Probably not since there are so many of these breaches people just ignore them. I miss the old days when a breach involved someone breaking into the computer room and grabbing as many mag tapes as they can carry and run :)

Genuinely asking - is there a Linux alternative to Sharepoint? I couldn't care less if it was lit on metaphorical fire and dumped into the sea, but a lot of orgs using it extensively.

For the self-hosted version: a Synology NAS.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

#60
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For collaborative documentation, there’s probably a bunch of alternatives. But SharePoint is the linchpin for Microsoft 365. Well technically SharePoint and Exchange. You can’t use any Microsoft 365 products without SharePoint. OneDrive uses SharePoint. Outlook Groups and Teams Channels create Microsoft 365 Groups. Every Microsoft 365 Group creates a SharePoint site. Microsoft Loop uses Microsoft SharePoint Embedded.…

Google Docs and Libre Office both produce compatible documents. There's really no reason to force one or the other. It's just conflating needs. Document editing and file storage are two different tasks. It's weird that people want everything integrated. It's not much effort to just drag and drop a file into G-Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox, box.com...

What people want are systems that compose and work well together. That's what MS provides, or at least attempts to provide, with SharePoint. When you start trying to tack on collaborative document editors, workflow management systems, shared storage, and other capabilities from different providers or systems you run into more and more complications (especially because most of these don't offer any kind of standards compliance that lets them be used interchangeably). That's also why G-Suite works as a competitor to MS, it covers at least the more critical integrations that people want to work smoothly without needing to combine multiple maybe compatible things together.
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