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Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by arresin »

jl6 wrote: post #50

> If Peep Show has any sort of singular thematic message, it’s that low self-esteem is the root of all evil. Interestingly this is a similar conclusion that the Unabomber came to in Industrial Society and its Future : https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/In... Kaczynski called out low self-esteem as one of several foundational components in the psychology of his hated enemies (“leftists”), whom h…

You ruin any point you’re trying to make with the unnecessary “inkwells” remark. That word is also used to denigrate and dehumanise. Also, it’s brainless in general.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by [deleted] »

colpabar wrote: post #88
UltraSane wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

30 Rock is one of the funniest and smartest TV shows of all time.

It's a perfect show. There are so many hilarious lines. My favorite has to be when tracy says "don't make me show you the back of my hand" and then on his hand is written "please be nice to me".

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Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by OldfieldFund »

arresin wrote: post #91
jl6 wrote: post #50

> If Peep Show has any sort of singular thematic message, it’s that low self-esteem is the root of all evil. Interestingly this is a similar conclusion that the Unabomber came to in Industrial Society and its Future : https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/In... Kaczynski called out low self-esteem as one of several foundational components in the psychology of his hated enemies (“leftists”), whom h…

You ruin any point you’re trying to make with the unnecessary “inkwells” remark. That word is also used to denigrate and dehumanise. Also, it’s brainless in general.

What is an inkwell? I haven't seen the OP mentioning that word. Sorry, I'm not familiar with the vernacular. Is that another word for incels?

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by robertlagrant »

danielecook wrote: post #4

I place it in the category of “cringe humor,” and by that standard it’s more cringey than Seinfeld and curb - especially because of the first person shots. It is a great show! Well worth a watch.

I was completely sold when I think it's in the first episode Mark is walking past some lads who accuse him of being a "paedo" and he hurries off thinking to himself "You're not a paedo. You're definitely not a paedo." as they've finally said something bad that doesn't apply to him.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by red-iron-pine »

Nursie wrote: post #32
jkestner wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I never empathized with Mark and Jez so his thesis falls apart for me. Maybe he’s the baddie?

I think this is an important point - it's very easy to find oneself slipping into the protagonists' viewpoints, in a lot of media the protagonist is 'good', we see the story unfold from their viewpoint, then sympathise and empathise with them, even when they make mistakes, their motivations were pure, and what’s unfolding isn’t due to problems with them exactly. But in shows like this, in quite a lot of sitcoms with…

Seinfeld also dipped into this, IIRC. it was one of the reasons the series finale ended up w/ all of the main characters in jail and having all of their terrible behavior called out.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by red-iron-pine »

aunty_helen wrote: post #23
aosaigh wrote: post #3

This is a good read for fans of the the show. I don’t think the central premise of redefined evil holds up, but it’s a fun read and the analysis of their characters is spot on.

That’s because it reads like a PR piece. Gauging interest or preseeding a reboot or rerelease.

by that logic, the Ribbonfarm articles about The Office was also an attempt at rebooting a series.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by nickkell »

jkestner wrote: post #12
aosaigh wrote: post #3

This is a good read for fans of the the show. I don’t think the central premise of redefined evil holds up, but it’s a fun read and the analysis of their characters is spot on.

Yeah, I never empathized with Mark and Jez so his thesis falls apart for me. Maybe he’s the baddie?

You don't see any of yourself in the pair? I found a lot of their neurotic behaviour relatable.

Butter the toast, eat the toast, shit the toast... God, life's relentless.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by xg15 »

brazzy wrote: post #83
mlsu wrote: post #63

> To Arendt, that was the scariest thing of all – that such evil could be perpetrated by so banal an individual. My takeaway from Eichmann was not that Eichmann _wasn't_ a horrible person. It's very clear that he is horrible, that he had full knowledge of what he was doing. Her characterization of him was actually comical. Totally irreverent of the man. (and, made the book quite a fun read) But I think Eichmann made…

> In fact, seeing the gas vans up close was disturbing to Eichmann, as it would be to anyone. And the gas vans (and chambers) were already an deliberate effort to make mass murder more palatable to those committing it. In the early stages, the Holocaust was done not with gas, but with bullets. But the Nazi leadership found that their troops could not stomach mass shootings, not even the SS. Many started to drink too…

There are present-day analogies here as well. First the detachment of fighter pilots, even more extreme with (predator) drone pilots, where dropping bombs on cars, buildings, the occasional wedding, became an actual 9-to-5 job.

Once the focus shifts to autonomous drones, I guess we'll get the next stage of that detachment, for the software engineers that developed those things. You can write a cool tech blog about how you designed the training pipeline for your killing machine...

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by robocat »

OldfieldFund wrote: post #93
arresin wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You ruin any point you’re trying to make with the unnecessary “inkwells” remark. That word is also used to denigrate and dehumanise. Also, it’s brainless in general.

What is an inkwell? I haven't seen the OP mentioning that word. Sorry, I'm not familiar with the vernacular. Is that another word for incels?

First result: https://incels.wiki/w/Inkel

Another breadcrumb towards a deep hole.

Re: Peep Show is the most realistic portrayal of evil I have seen (2020)

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Post by togetheragainor »

nylonstrung wrote: post #77
4gotunameagain wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indiscriminate murderer, sure. Mass murderer ? Doesn't fit the bill.

One of his bombs was on a plane with 78 people but it malfunctioned So mass murder was definitely the intent

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