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Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Treating food with chemicals usually it's not good. Also you simply don't know what exactly are they doing. Like ultra processed american bread is not so good comparing with european wholegrain sourdough bread.

I hear they even process it with dihydrogen monoxide!

I'd rather apply hot dihydrogen monoxide to my dry lentils than use compound prepared by Beyond Meat.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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These meat substitutes are UPF and that’s what you should care about more than nutritional content.

OK, we need to pick something apart here, because I see this a lot and it's annoying. UPF is not inherently bad. Some UPFs (Pasta, wholemeal bread, baked beans, probiotic yoghurts, wheat biscuit cereals), are actually good for you. The problem is that UPFs come from manufacturers who are trying to get you to buy more of their product, by playing tricks with the brain's response to it. There are food labs where people…

>UPF is not inherently bad. Some UPFs (Pasta, wholemeal bread, baked beans, probiotic yoghurts, wheat biscuit cereals), are actually good for you.

The only thing in that list that I agree with is Yogurt. Sure, if you live in Europe where they've banned some of the more harmful ingredients and processes and you are taking about very limited quantities, maybe they are not so bad for you but that just puts in the same league as wine or beer.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Why do you believe it's not healthy? Because of the processes food hysteria stuff?

No, nothing to do with hysteria. We simply have not had access to the substance long enough to be able to accurately say what the long term effects on health are and I cannot help but to assume that there has been a lot of unnatural processing in-order to turn a small, green, pea into a patty which resembles beef. Processing isn’t bad, as such. Turning beef from a steak into mince is processing and it is fine. But un…

The more common term you're looking for is "ultra-processed food"

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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That’s a funny way to say genocide

Like the one the aztecs regularly unleashed upon their neighbors? Or any pre-colonial tribe in the Americas or Africa (in this case up until this day really). What did the Romans brought us really?

> What did the Romans brought us really?

War, pestilence, famine, and death.

An excuse like "everyone else was doing it!" only goes as far as making my ancestors "not spectacularly evil", it definitely does not make them "good".

The railways are in the plus column, but would you accept your country being taken over by several different groups of aliens who draw random-seeming lines on the maps that even split up your existing cities between them, each forcing their own language and religious customs on their bit of your land, being really brutal in their suppression of any resistance campaigns, in exchange for a network of teleporter booths?

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Headline here is not true; in fact:

> the end of Beyond Meat stock doesn’t mean the end of the Beyond Meat business ... reorganized company can continue its work, and perhaps even go public again in the future

The stock price is simply unnaturally low because there's a decent chance it'll go through Chapter 11 soon.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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The FDA already allows far too much salt and preservatives in US food supplies and this fake meat stuff is an absurd amount of salt that will 100% give you a heart attack very very early if you eat it regularly.

Just like the drug ads on TV, this is one of those situations where industry must be reigned in before the market discovers the truth.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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> I could buy a free range, organic and grass fed beef burger for the price of their ultra processed burger. In many countries, it's a heavily subsidized industry. Even if you have VC funds, it's not the same as being backed by country subsidies. To be clear, I'm not making a judgment, just saying that meat would probably be a lot more expensive.

I think that for this exact reason Beyond Meat (or other alternatives) need a similar boost, in order to be financially competitive as well.

That's a political decision that needs to be applied to the alternative protein industry. However, given the current political climate and the acceptance of disinformation, that's going to be challenging.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Are you a vegetarian? I'm not, and really enjoy a good black bean patty. But when I crave a juicy beef hamburger, I have one. Vegetarians might prefer to satisfy cravings with something closer to their childhood memories than a black bean patty.

I remember the veggie burgers they're talking about and they weren't black bean patties. The one I remember had potato with peas in it... god, it was delicious

It sounds like your describing aloo tikki. It's really delicious and sometimes used as a vegetarian burger patty.
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