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Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by pmg101 »

joelrunyon wrote: post #76
angry_moose wrote: post #9

I've been vegetarian for about 8 years and won't buy them and try to avoid them in restaurants because they're too meat-like. Unfortunately they've made good non-fake meat vegetarian burgers (black bean, wild rice, etc) harder to find. It's a situation of "You know that thing you don't eat, don't like, and don't have cravings for anymore? We made something that tastes exactly like it. You're going to love it!" I'm gl…

If you didn't like that, the CEO of impossible foods is now proposing a 50/50 burger (50% fake meat, 50% meat) - https://x.com/joelrunyon/status/1936183159491584134 https://www.wsj.com/business/retail/impossible-foods-growth-...

Sounds mad but it could work.

People seem inclined to buy hybrids over full EVs which is a comparable situation.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by joelrunyon »

ignormies wrote: post #51
angry_moose wrote: post #9

I've been vegetarian for about 8 years and won't buy them and try to avoid them in restaurants because they're too meat-like. Unfortunately they've made good non-fake meat vegetarian burgers (black bean, wild rice, etc) harder to find. It's a situation of "You know that thing you don't eat, don't like, and don't have cravings for anymore? We made something that tastes exactly like it. You're going to love it!" I'm gl…

I'll echo what some of the other commenters have stated: I'm not vegan nor vegetarian, but I definitely align with many of the reasons that one would choose to be so. There are environmental and animal welfare concerns with the meat industry that simply cannot be ignored. With that in mind, I try _choose_ a non-meat-based option when it's feasible. I do my best to vote with my dollar. Beyond Meat and Impossible have…

If you care about the ethical reasons for plant-based meat, you should look at the companies business practices behind the scenes when they think no one is paying attention - https://x.com/joelrunyon/status/1927531529883762920

Kind of wild how they're treating creators.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by ggm »

Vegetarians and Vegans turn out to prefer less UPF dominant protein in their diet?

Plus, they apparently lost 45c in every $1 of sold product.

Quorn, allergy issue noted, continues. Growing edible fungi in tanks using classic bioreactor methods works, is economically sustainable. TVP likewise. 1960s tech which works at scale.

Me? I liked eating it a bit. I like eating flesh and organ meat, fowl and fish a lot. A lot beats a bit. I like inari sushi too. So it's not I dislike the veg alternatives.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by karahime »

dmazin wrote: post #68

It’s interesting that alternative meat consumption in the U.S. is struggling but taking off in Europe. One thing I noticed after moving to the UK: alternative milk is normalized here. Like, it’s so common to avoid milk that if you order coffee without specifying, you will be asked what kind of milk you want.

Having lived in both the US and Europe, I have to imagine at least some of that comes down to cost. In Europe, the plant based alternatives (at least where I lived) were actually cheaper, and meaningfully so.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by mdaniel »

I know this is about Beyond but I figure the audience that would care about this article would be interested in looking at Juicy Marbles: https://juicymarbles.com/collections/all-products

I've tried the thick cut filet and just like you're not going to mistake Impossible for actual burger, so too with the filet but it's a good texture and does help fill the longing for steak for me

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by AStonesThrow »

dmazin wrote: post #68

It’s interesting that alternative meat consumption in the U.S. is struggling but taking off in Europe. One thing I noticed after moving to the UK: alternative milk is normalized here. Like, it’s so common to avoid milk that if you order coffee without specifying, you will be asked what kind of milk you want.

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Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by dmazin »

account-5 wrote: post #71
dmazin wrote: post #68

It’s interesting that alternative meat consumption in the U.S. is struggling but taking off in Europe. One thing I noticed after moving to the UK: alternative milk is normalized here. Like, it’s so common to avoid milk that if you order coffee without specifying, you will be asked what kind of milk you want.

What part of the UK does this happen in? I've never been asked this. I can only assume you're in London?

Woops, sorry, yes, this is in London.

According to Good Food Institute (which is a plant-based food lobbying group), 35% of UK households purchased plant-based milk at least once during 2023 and 33% of UK households bought plant-based meat alternatives at least once during 2023.

https://gfieurope.org/blog/plant-based-meat-and-milk-are-now...

For a less biased source, a 2022 ipsos poll found that 48% of the UK uses alternative milk and 58% " use at least one plant-based meat alternative in their diet".

I think things dropped a bit since then due to cost of living crisis.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/almost-half-uk-adults-set-cut-in...

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by joelrunyon »

gonzalohm wrote: post #24
angry_moose wrote: post #9

I've been vegetarian for about 8 years and won't buy them and try to avoid them in restaurants because they're too meat-like. Unfortunately they've made good non-fake meat vegetarian burgers (black bean, wild rice, etc) harder to find. It's a situation of "You know that thing you don't eat, don't like, and don't have cravings for anymore? We made something that tastes exactly like it. You're going to love it!" I'm gl…

Why do you assume people will stop consuming them after a few years? I think most people enjoy the taste of meat but are concerned about the environmental implications of consuming meat. I would replace all animal products if they tasted like the real thing. I'm sorry but tofu is not cheese

Do you care about the ethical implications of the business practices of the brands you're supporting?

https://x.com/joelrunyon/status/1927531529883762920

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by burnt-resistor »

randycupertino wrote: post #38
armchairhacker wrote: post #5

I posted before: I care more about the nutritional content being close to meat than the look and taste; specifically, similar macro-nutrient ratios and whatever micro-nutrients are rare outside of meat. I also care about it being cheap in theory, even if it's more expensive in practice because the company hasn't scaled up. But really, as long as it's not ridiculously expensive, and isn't missing some nutrient or bala…

I remember when veggie burgers first came out and they actually featured veggies and tried to taste like veggies instead of psuedo-meat patties. They were so good! Then everything tried to just clone meat, poorly, in taste and texture and they were so much worse. But those first ones that really tasted like veggies were delish.

Both exist. Portabello burgers are great too. There's nothing wrong with choice.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by teekert »

eximius wrote: post #44
bluefirebrand wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought sodium was really bad for you though

Zero sodium also kills you because you need electrolytes to live. Like almost literally every complex system, there is a zone of moderation/goodness/health.

It actually nearly killed my wife’s grandmother. Until some doctor realized she avoided salt like the plague, gave her some and she made a miraculous discovery.
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