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Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by transcriptase »

angry_moose wrote: post #9

I've been vegetarian for about 8 years and won't buy them and try to avoid them in restaurants because they're too meat-like. Unfortunately they've made good non-fake meat vegetarian burgers (black bean, wild rice, etc) harder to find. It's a situation of "You know that thing you don't eat, don't like, and don't have cravings for anymore? We made something that tastes exactly like it. You're going to love it!" I'm gl…

There’s no way to say this without sounding like an asshole but perhaps in 8 years your memory of what meat is like has drifted. I only say that because the rest of us wish the fake stuff was remotely comparable in taste and texture.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by s5300 »

qmmmur wrote: post #12
bastawhiz wrote: post #6

I feel like I'm the ideal customer for Beyond Meat and its competitors. I am not price sensitive, I don't mind the idea of plant based meat products, and I am willing to try new things. My biggest reasons for not buying Beyond Meat are that I: 1. Would rather not cook, and eating Beyond Meat in a way that's financially meaningful for them as a company means me cooking 2. If I'm going to put in the effort to cook, I w…

For your own health, I implore you to explore even the most basic of cooking.

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Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by anoncow »

gonzalohm wrote: post #13

I think the problem is that crappy supermarket meat is really cheap, and most people don't seem to care about the quality of the meat. For those people, it's hard to justify buying a more expensive product that's not even meat. I wonder if reducing the price (without selling at a loss) would increase sales enough to offset the lower revenue

What makes supermarket meat crappy?

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by gonzalohm »

angry_moose wrote: post #9

I've been vegetarian for about 8 years and won't buy them and try to avoid them in restaurants because they're too meat-like. Unfortunately they've made good non-fake meat vegetarian burgers (black bean, wild rice, etc) harder to find. It's a situation of "You know that thing you don't eat, don't like, and don't have cravings for anymore? We made something that tastes exactly like it. You're going to love it!" I'm gl…

Why do you assume people will stop consuming them after a few years? I think most people enjoy the taste of meat but are concerned about the environmental implications of consuming meat.

I would replace all animal products if they tasted like the real thing. I'm sorry but tofu is not cheese

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by iknowstuff »

armchairhacker wrote: post #5

I posted before: I care more about the nutritional content being close to meat than the look and taste; specifically, similar macro-nutrient ratios and whatever micro-nutrients are rare outside of meat. I also care about it being cheap in theory, even if it's more expensive in practice because the company hasn't scaled up. But really, as long as it's not ridiculously expensive, and isn't missing some nutrient or bala…

hmm.. you would buy it but aren't?

4 oz raw/patty:

Impossible → 19 P / 14 F / 9 C, 240 kcal, 370 mg Na, 0 mg chol

Beyond → 20 P / 13 F / 7 C, 220 kcal, 260 mg Na, 0 mg chol

80/20 beef → 19 P / 23 F / 0 C, 287 kcal, 75 mg Na, ? chol (high)

Plants hit beef-level protein, ditch cholesterol, trade more sodium & a few carbs; beef still packs the fat.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by im_down_w_otp »

gonzalohm wrote: post #19
hellcow wrote: post #8

This is too bad. Beyond and Impossible opened up the door to me gradually becoming vegan. It was similar enough to real meat that I didn’t miss meat anymore, and from there I found other substitutions which were healthier. Without them I’m sure I never would have started a plant-based diet.

What have you substituted cheese with? It's one of my favorite foods but no substitute has come close to it

I replaced it with insatiable yearning. It's not as good, but it's all I've got.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by gonzalohm »

ipnon wrote: post #14
gonzalohm wrote: post #13

I think the problem is that crappy supermarket meat is really cheap, and most people don't seem to care about the quality of the meat. For those people, it's hard to justify buying a more expensive product that's not even meat. I wonder if reducing the price (without selling at a loss) would increase sales enough to offset the lower revenue

The crappy supermarket meat is actually incredibly nutritious it just has dubious ethics for an apparently vanishingly small market segment.

But it tastes disgusting, it's one of those things where you actually get what you pay

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by angry_moose »

subscribed wrote: post #16
angry_moose wrote: post #9

I've been vegetarian for about 8 years and won't buy them and try to avoid them in restaurants because they're too meat-like. Unfortunately they've made good non-fake meat vegetarian burgers (black bean, wild rice, etc) harder to find. It's a situation of "You know that thing you don't eat, don't like, and don't have cravings for anymore? We made something that tastes exactly like it. You're going to love it!" I'm gl…

I'm not a vegetarian and I buy them exactly because they're meat-like. You're literally not supporting a company which, as you admit, made your life more pleasant. And might potentially do so for others. I'm confused.

Because after 8 years the idea of eating meat has no remaining appeal and is switching more to mild revulsion. Why would I order a substitute that is a close copy of that?

I'll still get them if there's literally no other vegetarian option on the menu, but that's rare.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by e40 »

gonzalohm wrote: post #19
hellcow wrote: post #8

This is too bad. Beyond and Impossible opened up the door to me gradually becoming vegan. It was similar enough to real meat that I didn’t miss meat anymore, and from there I found other substitutions which were healthier. Without them I’m sure I never would have started a plant-based diet.

What have you substituted cheese with? It's one of my favorite foods but no substitute has come close to it

Vegan cheese is made from cashews. If you’re in the Bay Area try Arizmendi’s vegan pizza. Surprisingly good.

Re: Beyond Meat fights for survival

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Post by jahsome »

transcriptase wrote: post #21
angry_moose wrote: post #9

I've been vegetarian for about 8 years and won't buy them and try to avoid them in restaurants because they're too meat-like. Unfortunately they've made good non-fake meat vegetarian burgers (black bean, wild rice, etc) harder to find. It's a situation of "You know that thing you don't eat, don't like, and don't have cravings for anymore? We made something that tastes exactly like it. You're going to love it!" I'm gl…

There’s no way to say this without sounding like an asshole but perhaps in 8 years your memory of what meat is like has drifted. I only say that because the rest of us wish the fake stuff was remotely comparable in taste and texture.

Both can be true. I think they try desperately to be meat, and they fail miserably.
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