I only call provider APIs and try to include only devDependancies in my project.
Really helped my understanding of how apps work.
Nobody knows how to build with AI yet
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Re: Nobody knows how to build with AI yet
#72Reading articles like this feels like being in a different reality. I don't work like this, I don't want to work like this and maybe most importantly I don't want to work with somebody who works like this. Also I am scared that any library that I am using through the myriad of dependencies is written like this. On the other hand... if I look at this as some alternate universe where I don't need to directly or indirec…
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you also can't not swim with the tide. If you drove a horse-buggy 100 years ago, it was probably worth your while to keep your eye on whether motor-cars went anywhere. I was super skeptical about a year ago. Copilot was making nice predictions, that was it. This agent stuff is truly impressive.
An I the only one who has to constantly tell Claude and Gemini to stop making edits to my codebase because they keep messing things up and breaking the build like ten times in a row, duplicating logic everywhere, etc? I keep hearing about how impressive agents are. I wish they could automate me out of my job faster
Did you tell them to not duplicate code?
Re: Nobody knows how to build with AI yet
#74Excuse me, you can't build software that fast, and definitely not while making pancakes. Please return to your regularly scheduled struggling.
Re: Nobody knows how to build with AI yet
#75It’s amazing to me all the Luddite developers who are “against” all this.
Completely new ways of programming are forming, completely new ways of computing and the best the luddites can do is be “against it”.
A revolution came along, a change in history and instead of being excited by the possibilities, joining in, learning, discovering, creating …… the luddites are just “against it all”.
I feel sorry for them. Why be in computing at all if you don’t like new technology?
Re: Nobody knows how to build with AI yet
#76Reading articles like this feels like being in a different reality. I don't work like this, I don't want to work like this and maybe most importantly I don't want to work with somebody who works like this. Also I am scared that any library that I am using through the myriad of dependencies is written like this. On the other hand... if I look at this as some alternate universe where I don't need to directly or indirec…
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#77>we dont have a word for it yet
I call it 'Orchestratic Development'.
Edit: Seriously, down voted twice when just commenting on an article? God I hate this arrogant shithole.
Re: Nobody knows how to build with AI yet
#78I'm loving the new programming. I don't know where it goes either, but I like it for now. I'm actually producing code right this moment, where I would normally just relax and do something else. Instead, I'm relaxing and coding. It's great for a senior guy who has been in the business for a long time. Most of my edits nowadays are tedious. If I look at the code and decide I used the wrong pattern originally, I have to…
Hot take: Junior devs are going to be the ones who "know how to build with AI" better than current seniors.
They are entering the job market with sensibilities for a higher-level of abstraction. They will be the first generation of devs that went through high-school + college building with AI.
Re: Nobody knows how to build with AI yet
#79Eh, idk. First of all, the article is really wordy to say very few things. That just frustrated me a bit. Second of all, it's easy to fart out some program in a few days vibe coding. How will that fare as more and more features need to be added on? We all used to say "Dropbox that's just FTP wrapped in a nice UI anyone can make that". This protocollie project seems to be a documentation viewer / postman for MCP. Whic…
You prompt. You go live your life. You come back to ten thousand lines of code. You spend 5 minutes reading. One sentence of feedback. Another ten thousand lines appear while you're making lunch. Yeah, it strikes me the author writes prose the same way they're generating code. 20k lines? That's enough code for a whole compiler or an operating system kernel. I'd love to see what those 20k lines actually do -- notably,…
I definitely did a double take when I got to this section. I am neither an AI optimist nor an AI pessimist (probably slightly on the optimistic side of the midpoint) but this sounds insane to me for any software that people might truly depend on. Five minutes of review for 10,000 lines, happening multiple times per day?
Re: Nobody knows how to build with AI yet
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you also can't not swim with the tide. If you drove a horse-buggy 100 years ago, it was probably worth your while to keep your eye on whether motor-cars went anywhere. I was super skeptical about a year ago. Copilot was making nice predictions, that was it. This agent stuff is truly impressive.
An I the only one who has to constantly tell Claude and Gemini to stop making edits to my codebase because they keep messing things up and breaking the build like ten times in a row, duplicating logic everywhere, etc? I keep hearing about how impressive agents are. I wish they could automate me out of my job faster
Are you paying for the higher end models? Do you have proper system prompts and guidance in place for proper prompt engineering? Have you started to practice any auxiliary forms of context engineering?
This isn't a magic code genie, it's a very complicated and very powerful new tool that you need to practice using over time in order to get good results from.