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Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by bags43 »

somehnguy wrote: post #57
bags43 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Company where I work had huge risk audit. The second highest risk is using USA based cloud with 66/100. The first one was using Spring Boot everywhere 77/100. Till the end of 2025 we need to have migration path to something else with 2 PoCs done.

What's the actual risk though? Just saying it's the riskiest at 77/100 doesn't mean anything.

Among others:

- license change -> restricting features behind a paid tier (https://spring.io/blog/2025/04/21/spring-cloud-data-flow-com...)

- reducing headcount of people -> slow security patching + not following industry standards

- all eggs in one basket :)

- cut from major clouds (Azure Spring apps)

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by ghaff »

colechristensen wrote: post #80
jauntywundrkind wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a company more "Take what you can, give nothing back" than Broadcom? Probably not. Broadcom's continued ability to perform well while only serving ever more upmarket areas, & cutting everyone else loose (& generally giving no figs) is fantastically impressive.

Broadcom is just private equity buying products to bleed dry. Nobody thinks VMware is the future, but the folks that use it are enterprises with deep pockets who are slow and reluctant to change so you can multiply the price by big numbers and get paid big while your dying acquired product meets its end.

VMware's lock on enterprise virtualization simultaneously made it essentially impossible for anyone else to compete like-for-like using a different platform and probably also doomed VMware's attempt to start pivoting to containers.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by davidham »

ntqz wrote: post #34
dpkirchner wrote: post #16

Maybe this will finally break me of my habit of using helm charts, period.

Grafana's Tanka is a very underappreciated tool if you have to do something similar to Helm.

I work at Grafana, and Jsonnet powers our whole k8s infrastructure. It can get a little baroque sometimes but overall it’s tremendously powerful, and it’s fun to work with.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by davidham »

chuckadams wrote: post #54
cbzbc wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you planning on moving to ?

Probably kustomize, as my needs are simple. If I care to get fancy, I’m pondering giving Yoke a try.

I used kustomize to build an ArgoCD install at a previous company, and I was impressed at how powerful it was. Our setup was pretty involved, and kustomize was able to handle all the per-environment differences easily, and the code was easy to work with.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by progbits »

CBLT wrote: post #55
skissane wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve never used Helm charts. I learned K8S in a shop in which kustomize is the standard and helm is a permitted exception to the standard, but I just never felt any reason to learn helm. Am I missing out? Sometimes the limitations of kustomize annoy me, but we find ways to live with them

Helm gives you more than enough rope to hang yourself with. At $dayjob we barely use 3rd party helm charts, and when we do we eventually run into problems with clever code. We do package our own helm charts, not in the least because we sign contracts with our customers that we will help them run the software we're selling them. So we use package docker and helm artifacts that we sell in addition to running locally. S…

We just set chart version equal to image version, they live in the same repo and are released and built together (and the chart is only published after successfully publishing the image, so it's always valid). The chart allows to override the image version but we almost never do that, it's for emergencies.

Replacing with hash is a neat idea, might start doing that too.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by mrweasel »

9dev wrote: post #95
KronisLV wrote: post #89

> Legacy repository migration > All existing container images, including older or versioned tags (e.g., 2.50.0, 10.6), will be moved from the public catalog (docker.io/bitnami) to the Bitnami Legacy repository (docker.io/bitnamilegacy). This legacy catalog will receive no further updates or support and should only be used for temporary migration purposes. This sucks, I used to like the Bitnami container images (didn'…

I knew this would happen eventually. The images always looked nice, but were so hopelessly entangled in the Bitnami world there was no chance of forking them, or easily migrating away. Good thing I dodged that bullet… never trust a commercial vendor that trades you convenience for interoperability.

To me the images always looked overly complex, to the point where I frequently felt more at ease just doing an image from scratch myself. They never felt like a good fit for production systems.

I also know a ton of people and project who are now sort of screwed, because they can not possibly maintain a fork do to the Bitnami complexity, but there's also a reason why they didn't just do their own image.

This did feel inevitable.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by mrweasel »

janjongboom wrote: post #83
carrodher wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what the announcement said, there is a copy of everything at https://hub.docker.com/u/bitnamilegacy

Still gonna break everyone’s CI until they manually update the tag. (And who guarantees that these tags will stay alive after they pull this)

This is exactly why so many of us have advocating for private registries and copies of every image you run in production. Pulling straight from Docker Hub was always a risk.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by sneak »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #69
ridruejo wrote: post #47

Hi, former cofounder of Bitnami here. I left VMware quite a while ago, so not involved with this. The technical team at Bitnami is still top notch and great people. I am quite baffled at this business decision.

Is there a company more "Take what you can, give nothing back" than Broadcom? Probably not. Broadcom's continued ability to perform well while only serving ever more upmarket areas, & cutting everyone else loose (& generally giving no figs) is fantastically impressive.

Oracle.

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by stackskipton »

9dev wrote: post #96
IshKebab wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If YAML is a foot-gun, templated YAML is a face-cannon.

I never understood why people didn’t serialize from JSON if they run a transformation step on the YAML anyway. Read JSON, alter in your favorite language, dump YAML as the last step, deploy. Instant prevention of a lot of sadness. Yet somehow, all we have is YAML templating?

Kubectl will handle JSON without converting it to YAML. So if you are doing this, then just do kubectl apply -f deployment.json

Re: Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

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Post by b112 »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #67
ridruejo wrote: post #47

Hi, former cofounder of Bitnami here. I left VMware quite a while ago, so not involved with this. The technical team at Bitnami is still top notch and great people. I am quite baffled at this business decision.

I was a service provider of Zimbra and had great relations with VMware folks on Page Mill many moons ago. One my friends helped move VMware HQs within PA just out of college. Fuck Wall St. greedy morons at Broadcom. Hubris will educate them the hard way as they fade in relevance.

I take daily walks, and sometimes walk that campus. It always baffled me that it was bigger than my home town.

All gone now. Sad.

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