Shutting Down Clear Linux OS • Hacker News Board

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by zymhan » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:10 AM UTC

mikepurvis wrote: post #35

kev009 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Debian, FreeBSD.. the longstanding community software is immune from these kinds of rug pulls.

Yes, but you pay a real cost for those choices too. A management plane that is non deterministic, imperative, and full of highly mutable state, not to mention basic stuff like the package manager metadata and cache not being shareable, and package installs all having to be serialized because they all call shell scripts as root. These limitations constrain even tools like dagger from providing a first class interface…

I'll bet $20 your solution to the problems you posed is "Nix"

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by WD-42 » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:12 AM UTC

rdl wrote: post #27

hardwaresofton wrote: post #2

Knowing which projects/languages/frameworks to invest time into and which to skip (even if they produce useful subprojects) is a superpower these days.

Always bet against Intel whenever it's something software?

I dunno I feel like I see Intel bail out AMD on a lot of linux/x86 software stuff.

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by Sunspark » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:19 AM UTC

avazhi wrote: post #40

rdl wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always bet against Intel whenever it's something software?

Intel will probably be somebody’s subsidiary for less than $150B sometime within the next 3 years, pending DOJ approval. Company is absolutely cooked.

$150B is pretty cheap if it comes with ready-to-go chip fabs.

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by citizenpaul » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:20 AM UTC

It's always interesting when a company announces that it has leadership in paycheck only.

We are bankrupt of direction or ideas. Was are going to make panic knee jerk decisons in a public view.

I guess to the ultra rich owner class it looks like work. Business idiots all around the MBA tree.

I have no stake in clearlinux future or past, just observing.

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by cpburns2009 » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:20 AM UTC

That's a huge disappointment. Clear Linux has been reliably the fastest distro. I'm going to have to find a replacement distro for my Minecraft server.

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by shawn_w » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:20 AM UTC

curt15 wrote: post #10

Havoc wrote: post #5

>Effective immediately, >we strongly recommend planning your migration Not even a brief period of advance notice to do a migration? Just one day no more security patches... wth is going on over at intel

How much notice did ppl get when sacked?

A week, maybe 2 for this last round? They were announced on the 13th I believe, for "mid July" layoffs.

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by nine_k » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:21 AM UTC

curt15 wrote: post #10

Havoc wrote: post #5

>Effective immediately, >we strongly recommend planning your migration Not even a brief period of advance notice to do a migration? Just one day no more security patches... wth is going on over at intel

How much notice did ppl get when sacked?

From my experience, none. "Utterly unfortunately, today was your last day with the company. A separation agreement has been sent to your personal email. Your corporate access is being revoked. Thank you for your contribution!"

Being fired for poor performance is all about ample warnings, issuing a PIP, etc. The company wants the employee back on track. Being laid off is a situation that an employee cannot fix with their efforts. There's no incentive to work this week if it is already known that you are going to be laid off next week, but some employees might consider a prank or even minor sabotage as a helpless act of protest. It's safest to dismiss the laid-off ASAP.

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by Sunspark » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:23 AM UTC

nine_k wrote: post #9

toshinoriyagi wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, Clear Linux was the leader in the vast majority of Linux benchmarks, to my knowledge. So much so that even AMD used it in their advertised benchmarks for CPU releases because of the performance advantage. I think it was quite successful, and I doubt they are shuttering it because they don't see the value in it, but because of overall lackluster company performance and the new CEO cutting costs/the workforce a…

It being a Linux distro, I wonder how soon a viable fork will appear.

I don't think there will be one, a company would need to commit to salaried devs. What would the value-added proposition be for them that they can't get by using any other distro out there?

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by mrbluecoat » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:28 AM UTC

My prediction is a handful of laid off employees will fork the repo and resurrect within a month with new branding.

Re: Shutting Down Clear Linux OS

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Post by ThinkBeat » Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 1:31 AM UTC

mrbluecoat wrote: post #49

My prediction is a handful of laid off employees will fork the repo and resurrect within a month with new branding.

Hopefully. But if Intel were paying them to do so, doing it for free without secure financial backing might not be appealing. I do hope you are right.