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AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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When Apple discontinued the first generation of AirPods, the final firmware release had a bug that was never fixed. It caused the left AirPod to disconnect after one or two minutes. Hundreds of thousands of loyal customers were affected [0], including me. You couldn't even buy a second hand left AirPod because of a firmware version mismatch. I still love Apple products, but under Tim Cook, it feels like they care mor…

> I still love Apple products, but under Tim Cook, it feels like they care more about margins than customers.

They care about customers, as long as happy customers means more profits. If they can make more money (long term) screwing you over, that's what they'll be doing.

Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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I gave up on mine because they went flaky and went back to wired. Have had no desire to replace them. Not running out of battery is quite a good feature.

So is decent sound quality and not worrying about connectivity issues or which device is playing what. I plug my headphones in, sound comes out, done.

Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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2-3 years for earphones are a good metric? My Sony WH-1000X M3 are now almost 6 years old and still work perfectly (just replaced the pads once last year)

Normies in my life get significant utility from AirPods. It may frustrate many that this continues to be brought up as the bar when discussing apple products, but getting the old folks onto wireless headphones was impossible prior to AirPods. I have multiple 80+ year olds in my life and they just use them. Never asked me a thing about pairing. When things go awry they go to the apple story and pay $75 for the replace…

Airpods, good for old people. Got it.

Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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My first HN comment. It’s the monopoly tie in… so many features that other just cannot provide. Hey siri… handover to name a few. It’s a total disgrace IMHO. To think how much Microsoft got fined for just bundling IE..

How dare Apple sell me exactly what I want: an integrated computing environment

Apple are free to do that, and so should other manufactures. There is no reason, technical or otherwise, that the APIs used for Airpods should be exclusive.

Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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What I want: the ability to integrate tooling I roll myself or find on the internet just as easily as apples often slopware.

But then the logical solution is to not buy Apple? I like the garden walls. If you don't like them, find your own garden, don't shake your fist at my walls.

Sure, we'll all just go ahead and build the third walled garden with all the billions we have lying around. This "just don't buy Apple then" argument is disingenuous and I'm tired of hearing it.

Apple et al. want the benefits of being utilities without the regulations that go with it. If my _bank_ requires me to use one of two OSs, the corporations that control them can not claim all the freedoms private companies do.

Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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Just FYI. I have several pair, because I thought the batteries were going too quickly. Turns out, I should have just not left the case on the charger, all the time. Nowadays, I just let them charge for a couple of hours, every few days, take them off the charger, and leave them in my coin tray. I haven’t had a single battery issue, since; even on the ones I thought were “dead.” But I think it’s a big design error, th…

Cool that there's a workaround but bonkers to me that companies still don't understand that if they create something that _can_ be plugged in 24/7, there's a number of their customerbase that WILL and they should handle that usecase

When the holder is also the charger, it shouldn't even be surprising that people keep them charging 24/7. That should be accounted for in the design.

Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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Cool that there's a workaround but bonkers to me that companies still don't understand that if they create something that _can_ be plugged in 24/7, there's a number of their customerbase that WILL and they should handle that usecase

When the holder is also the charger, it shouldn't even be surprising that people keep them charging 24/7. That should be accounted for in the design.

I think leaving them in the holder is OK.

It’s leaving the holder on the wireless charger, that’s the problem. The holder heats up, and I think that degrades the batteries in the buds.

Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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But then the logical solution is to not buy Apple? I like the garden walls. If you don't like them, find your own garden, don't shake your fist at my walls.

Sure, we'll all just go ahead and build the third walled garden with all the billions we have lying around. This "just don't buy Apple then" argument is disingenuous and I'm tired of hearing it. Apple et al. want the benefits of being utilities without the regulations that go with it. If my _bank_ requires me to use one of two OSs, the corporations that control them can not claim all the freedoms private companies do…

Take it up with your bank. That's a legitimate issue. But the last thing Apple wants is to be a commoditized utility and it's hardly their fault if your bank does this.

Re: AirPods succeed by not selling you a new pair

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Wait, y'all can still use your 3 year old AirPods? On mines, the battery went nuts in ~18 months, and I don't even use them that much.

> I don't even use them that much.

There’s your problem. Batteries are just like engines - dies when you don’t use them.

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