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What is the current SOTA advice on what to do if 1) approached and asked questions by ICE, 2) detained by ICE; broken down by A) “I’m a US citizen”, B) “I’m not a US citizen, have legal status to be in the US”, C) “I’m not a US citizen, don’t have legal status to be in the US”?
ICE "officers" are almost always. A. Without badges, or have badges without numbers. Toy-store style. B. Are faceless. C. Do not have names displayed. D. Do not have warrants. These were mentioned, IIRC, in an ACLU complaint which resulted in restraining orders (see [0]) though the order addressed two points not specifically related to the above. > The first TRO bars immigration agents from stopping individuals witho…
Do ICE agents get free pass to ignore state laws by their federal organisation?
Last week I saw some dashcam video of a masked ICE agent (or similar, they don't have uniforms or proper identification) leaping out of a car and pointing a gun at someone who photographed the car's license plate. Appellate courts in the First, Third, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, and Eleventh Circuits have all held there's a first amendment right to film police, and that law enforcement officers do not have an expectation…
> dashcam video of a masked ICE agent (or similar, they don't have uniforms or proper identification) leaping out of a car and pointing a gun at someone who photographed the car's license plate We're unfortunately waiting for one of those ICE agents, on camera, to pull the trigger and kill or brutally maim someone doing nothing other than filming, or worse an innocent bystander. It doesn't seem like our political sys…
They won't deal with it then, either.
ICE "officers" are almost always. A. Without badges, or have badges without numbers. Toy-store style. B. Are faceless. C. Do not have names displayed. D. Do not have warrants. These were mentioned, IIRC, in an ACLU complaint which resulted in restraining orders (see [0]) though the order addressed two points not specifically related to the above. > The first TRO bars immigration agents from stopping individuals witho…
> the four points I mentioned above are beyond acceptable police behavior, and likely unconstitutional Do ICE agents get free pass to ignore state laws by their federal organisation?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
And enjoy your jail time for assaulting an officer if you resist.
> enjoy your jail time for assaulting an officer if you resist Are any of these charges sticking? We haen't even gotten to the phase where the victims start filing civil cases for money damages.
Last week I saw some dashcam video of a masked ICE agent (or similar, they don't have uniforms or proper identification) leaping out of a car and pointing a gun at someone who photographed the car's license plate. Appellate courts in the First, Third, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, and Eleventh Circuits have all held there's a first amendment right to film police, and that law enforcement officers do not have an expectation…
In several parts of the country, doing that puts your life at immediate and substantial risk.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> dashcam video of a masked ICE agent (or similar, they don't have uniforms or proper identification) leaping out of a car and pointing a gun at someone who photographed the car's license plate We're unfortunately waiting for one of those ICE agents, on camera, to pull the trigger and kill or brutally maim someone doing nothing other than filming, or worse an innocent bystander. It doesn't seem like our political sys…
> We're unfortunately waiting for one of those ICE agents, on camera, to pull the trigger and kill or brutally maim someone doing nothing other than filming, or worse an innocent bystander. It doesn't seem like our political system or even high court currently have the coherence to deal with evil in less-stark terms. They won't deal with it then, either.
If some masked, unidentified guy grabs you and tells you to get in his car, how are you supposed to know if he is an ICE agent or a kidnapper? Scary stuff.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-t...