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NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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>A city fire marshal used FDNY’s access to a facial recognition software to help NYPD detectives identify a pro-Palestinian protester at Columbia University, circumventing policies that tightly restrict the Police Department’s use of the technology. Why does the fire department need access to run facial recognition?

> Why does the fire department need access to run facial recognition?

Arson investigation, identifying the people at the scene of a suspicious fire?

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

#72

How many rights will we be asked to give up in order to squash anti-war sentiment?

Quite a lot. The #1 right, for instance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_t... Curious why this is downvoted?

> Curious why this is downvoted?

Probably people reading the article title without reading the headline, not realizing that that it's not only literally about shouting in movie theaters.

But tbh most commenters/voters on this site are reflexively imperialist, which is not surprising for a forum run by (and for!) capitalists in the imperial core. That's doubtless a big factor as well.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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post #71
post #3

>A city fire marshal used FDNY’s access to a facial recognition software to help NYPD detectives identify a pro-Palestinian protester at Columbia University, circumventing policies that tightly restrict the Police Department’s use of the technology. Why does the fire department need access to run facial recognition?

> Why does the fire department need access to run facial recognition? Arson investigation, identifying the people at the scene of a suspicious fire?

The job of the fire department should be to fight fires, not to investigate crimes.

The police should be the ones investigating crimes, under extremely strict and limited guidelines (eg. 4th amendment) which in this case include not being allowed to use facial recognition software.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite a lot. The #1 right, for instance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_t... Curious why this is downvoted?

I've noticed many right-leaning tech types give quite a lot of lip service to free speech when it's about someone getting banned from a mailing list for being an asshole, and not so much when it's the government quashing protest against genocide. I'll personally always defend the idea of free speech, no matter the side.

Everybody feels the need to defend government overreach when it’s in their favour. The most famous example is any non-libertarian political leaning with free speech, but it was the same deal with the “left” complaining about Chevron v. USA being overturned when their guy was in power.

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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The perversion is one side is protesting against genocide and another is protesting in favor of genocide. > Sounds like an actual attack on democracy. There is. And it's by the side you are on.

What do you think makes this a genocide vs a war?

Re: NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed many right-leaning tech types give quite a lot of lip service to free speech when it's about someone getting banned from a mailing list for being an asshole, and not so much when it's the government quashing protest against genocide. I'll personally always defend the idea of free speech, no matter the side.

Everybody feels the need to defend government overreach when it’s in their favour. The most famous example is any non-libertarian political leaning with free speech, but it was the same deal with the “left” complaining about Chevron v. USA being overturned when their guy was in power.

Yeah. It's not cool to be principled anymore, I guess...
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