Wow, NYPD is full of people who support Israel?
The article says he was suspected of hate crime assault. Then the police has a duty to act. Edit: While I said "duty" I meant that I really hope the that the police investigate all allegations of hate crime assault properly.
NYPD bypassed facial recognition ban to ID pro-Palestinian student protester
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
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A secondary question: what rights do you have when someone else does that? What rights _should_ you have in that situation?
If I photograph you in public, where you have no reasonable expectations of privacy, you should have no expectations of privacy over the photograph’s contents nor over my commentary about it.
If I photograph you in a private setting, you should expect that privacy extends to the photographic record of it as well.
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#43>A city fire marshal used FDNY’s access to a facial recognition software to help NYPD detectives identify a pro-Palestinian protester at Columbia University, circumventing policies that tightly restrict the Police Department’s use of the technology. Why does the fire department need access to run facial recognition?
Cause israel. The fire marshal probably is pro-israel or israel has dirt on him. All because of a protest against a foreign country committing acts of genocide. It's unbelievable when you think about it.
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#44You have the judge coming down on the side of privacy, which is good; but the circumstances of the particular case are troubling (allegations of someone throwing a rock at someone else).
I'd be happier gaining ground for privacy rights with cases about, e.g., blanket surveillance, using surveillance for political purposes, surveillance capitalism, etc. Then we figure out where the best lines are for when surveillance actually should or can be used.
(Edit: And ill-considered downvotes is why I'm not going to bother to try to have a meaningful discussion on HN.)
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#45Wow, NYPD is full of people who support Israel?
The article says he was suspected of hate crime assault. Then the police has a duty to act. Edit: While I said "duty" I meant that I really hope the that the police investigate all allegations of hate crime assault properly.
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#46Once you give the government access to powerful tools, you can be certain they will abuse to maintain their power over you.
The 2nd amendment and the notion that we have physical power over the government is going to be whittled away as facial recognition and omnipresent government spying via data brokers gives them all the info they need to spy on every citizen, all the time.
AI means they don't only collect all the data they want for when they need it ala NSA 2008, but they can have a robot army of analysts transcribe photos and phone calls instantly and analyze for sentiment, flag for review.
If we don't demand, as a society, that government stay out of the business of the people, and that the military stay out of the business of civil society (ICE/National Guard/Marines), we are in for true evil.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Claiming that an administrative policy against using facial recognition as a "right" seems like a stretch. This is such strange way to describe "right for privacy".
Hurling a rock at someone is privacy now?
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#48There are two takeaways from this: 1. US foreign policy is uniparty. As terrible as this administration is, remember that quashing anti-war protests happened under Biden, too. Columbia, Hind Hall, etc were all under Biden. That being said, moving to deport or denaturalize pro-Palestinian protestors is new; and 2. The state will turn violent to quash anti-imperialist sentiment. Let me give you some examples: 1. The MO…
Only in regards to one foreign entity.
> Let me give you some examples:
2 of those 3 directly involve the US and US action. The outlier says a lot.
> The state simply will not tolerate anti-imperialist protests.
The current administration ran on an anti-imperialist platform. You can protest american, russian, french, chinese, british imperialism all you want. You can quote george washington's warning about empires and foreign wars all day long. What you can't protest is israel. Period.
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#50Once you give the government access to powerful tools, you can be certain they will abuse to maintain their power over you.
Indeed. The 2nd amendment and the notion that we have physical power over the government is going to be whittled away as facial recognition and omnipresent government spying via data brokers gives them all the info they need to spy on every citizen, all the time. AI means they don't only collect all the data they want for when they need it ala NSA 2008, but they can have a robot army of analysts transcribe photos and…