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Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
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Re: Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
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#43It's a fallacy to argue that a community can be any specific thing. No community is a monolith. There are factions here, just like everywhere else.
There are multiple factions. There's the people fearful of AI, the people who post everything anyone posts if it vaguely relates to AI, the people who love to complain about AI posts, and the people who left because they got sick of all the AI stuff.
If you want a description of the politics related factions, just apply `sed -e s/AI/politics/g`.
Re: Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have trouble taking people seriously when they refuse to call things what they are because they don’t want to admit it.
Trump has given power back to the states for various things and seems to be consistently anti-war. Musk has been pushing the idea of starting a new political party to better represent the people and is for less regulation and smaller government. This doesn’t sound like a couple of fascists.
> seems to be consistently anti-war
…this is the guy who bombed Iran?
> to better represent the people
Do you just believe everything that people with power tell you?
Re: Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
#45I have trouble taking people seriously when they use “fascist” as a blanket term to discredit people they don’t like.
I have trouble taking people seriously when they refuse to call things what they are because they don’t want to admit it.
"Anti-fascists" were saying things like "Keir Starmer is a Fascist" (sci-fi writer Charlie Stross) or that "My local police department is Fascist" or "White people are Fascist"
If you know your 'Pataphysics or Chaos Magick you know that's a magic spell to put fascists in charge.
Re: Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have trouble taking people seriously when they refuse to call things what they are because they don’t want to admit it.
Trump has given power back to the states for various things and seems to be consistently anti-war. Musk has been pushing the idea of starting a new political party to better represent the people and is for less regulation and smaller government. This doesn’t sound like a couple of fascists.
>Musk has been pushing the idea of starting a new political party to better represent the people and is for less regulation and smaller government.
This is self-contradictory gibberish. Deregulation and small government for him means further weakening labour laws to the point where the interests of the majority of Americans, ie, wage workers, have no ability to advocate for their needs and no recourse when he encroaches on them.
>Trump [...] seems to be consistently anti-war.
This was already a surreal claim to make when he was sending troops and PMCs into Iraq and Syria, deploying SEALs on abortive raids in Yemen, where Saudi troops were using arms his administration provided them, oh and, I dunno, ordering the assassination of the highest military official of a sovereign nation. It becomes solipsistic in the month after he oversaw the US' direct intervention in Israel's war with Iran.
Re: Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
#47Fascism implies (paraphrasing Wikipedia):
* a dictatorial leader
* an authoritarian government
* nationalism and/or racism
* militarism
* promotion of a "natural order"
I don't think any of those accurately characterize a dominant ideology on HN. If anything, in my observation, HN is somewhat libertarian-leaning, rather than fascist.
Re: Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am not 100% sure that your implication really tracks with conservative behaviors. I would say it would be more likely that non-empathetic conservatives would work pretty relentlessly to relocate homeless out of their communities rather than just ignore and co-exist with it. I am not saying they would solve it, but they would make it some other community's problem.
I think it selects for people who don't care. Or maybe it is a warning that it could happen to you if you don't suck up to your brat boss.
> I think it selects for people who don't care
Ok, but that is a different thing than a specific political lean. I know quite a few folks who claim to care about the homeless, but those claims don’t ever translate to action. That leads me to suspect that what they actually care about is people believing they care about the homeless.
Re: Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
#49Is HN, the entity? Yes. Is the community? Enough of it to matter.
But like, you wanna see the most unhinged antisocial takes? Well, go to Twitter, then when you're bored, come here.
It's not really HN in particular though. It's a silicon valley thing.
Re: Ask HN: Is HN Pro-Fascist?
#50You think HN is pro-Trump? Quite the opposite from what I can tell! But I have also noticed that any story mentioning Trump gets flagged. I don't see this as fascist so much as it seems like there less than zero desire to see the name of Trump regardless of whether the story is positive or negative about him. And yes, there are some things that are coming out of legislation which would usually be of big interest to H…
XLibre gets voted down because all of the project lead's freedesktop PRs were reverted for being crap, and nobody has any faith in the project, especially when Wayback now exists
I mean, him being a notorious crackpot doesn't help, obviously. But it's a project with absolutely minimal promise.