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Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by manquer »

m4rtink wrote: post #82
thr0waway001 wrote: post #24

> One user, who asked not to be identified, said it has been impossible to advance his project since the usage limits came into effect. Vibe limit reached. Gotta start doing some thinking.

Who would have though including a hard depedency on third part service with unclear long term availability would be a problem! Paid compilers and remotely acessible mainframes all over again - people apparently never learn.

> Paid compilers.

I don't think this one is a good comparison.

Once you had the binary, the compiler worked forever[1]

The issue with them was around long term support for bugs and upgrade path as the language evolved.

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[1] as long you had a machine capable of running/emulating the instruction set for the binary.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by cma »

stogot wrote: post #77
ChadMoran wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you aren't hitting the limits you aren't writing great prompts. I can write a prompt and have it go off and work for about an hour and hit the limit. You can have it launch sub-agents, parallelize work and autonomously operate for long periods of time. Think beyond just saying "do this one thing".

How is that a great prompt having it run for an hour without your input? Sounds like it’s just generating wasteful output.

It can be fixing unit tests and stuff for quite a while, but I usually find it cheats the goal when unattended.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

I wish models which we can self-host at home would start catching up. Relying on hosted providers like this is a huge risk, as can be seen in this case.

I just worry that there’s little incentive for bit corporations to research optimising the “running queries for a single user in a consumer GPU” use case. I wonder if getting funding for such research is even viable at all.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by lacker »

pembrook wrote: post #49

The funny thing is Claude 4.0 isn't even that 'smart' from a raw intelligence perspective compared to the other flagship models. They've just done the work to tailor it specifically for proper tool using during coding. Once other models catch up, they will not be able to be so stingy on limits. Google has the advantage here given they're running on their own silicon; can optimize for it; and have nearly unlimited cas…

Will the other models really catch up, though? To me it seems like Anthropic's lead in programming has increased over the past year. Isn't it possible that over time, some models just become fundamentally better at some things than other models?

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by vineyardmike »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #93

I wish models which we can self-host at home would start catching up. Relying on hosted providers like this is a huge risk, as can be seen in this case. I just worry that there’s little incentive for bit corporations to research optimising the “running queries for a single user in a consumer GPU” use case. I wonder if getting funding for such research is even viable at all.

We already have really strong models that run on a consumer GPU, and really strong frameworks and libraries to support them.

The issue is (1) the extra size supports extra knowledge/abilities for the model. (2) a lot of the open source models are trained in a way to not compete with the paid offerings, or lack the data set of useful models.

Specifically, it seems like the tool-use heavy “agentic” work is not being pushed to open models as aggressively as the big closed models. Presumably because that’s where the money is.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by YmiYugy »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #93

I wish models which we can self-host at home would start catching up. Relying on hosted providers like this is a huge risk, as can be seen in this case. I just worry that there’s little incentive for bit corporations to research optimising the “running queries for a single user in a consumer GPU” use case. I wonder if getting funding for such research is even viable at all.

I think model providers would love to run their models on a single GPU. The latency and throughput of GPU interconnects is orders of magnitudes worse than accessing VRAM. Cutting out the latency would make the models much more efficient to run, they wouldn't have to pay for such expensive networking. If they got to run it on consumer GPUs even better. Consumer GPUs probably cost something like 5-10x less with regards to raw compute than data center ones. New coding optimized models for single GPUs drop all the time. But it's just a really hard problem to make them good and when the large models are still in the barely good enough phase (I wasn't using agents much before Sonnet 4) it's just not realistic to get something useful locally.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by tho234i32242234 »

Hardly surprising.

AWS Bedrock which seems to be a popular way to get access to Claude etc. while not having to go through another "cloud security audit", will easily run up ~20-30$ bills in half-hour with something like Cline.

Anthropic likely is making bank with this and can afford to lose the less-profitable (or even loss-making) business of lone-man developers.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by danny_codes »

lacker wrote: post #94
pembrook wrote: post #49

The funny thing is Claude 4.0 isn't even that 'smart' from a raw intelligence perspective compared to the other flagship models. They've just done the work to tailor it specifically for proper tool using during coding. Once other models catch up, they will not be able to be so stingy on limits. Google has the advantage here given they're running on their own silicon; can optimize for it; and have nearly unlimited cas…

Will the other models really catch up, though? To me it seems like Anthropic's lead in programming has increased over the past year. Isn't it possible that over time, some models just become fundamentally better at some things than other models?

I mean, not based on anything we’ve seen so far in the DL space. The algorithms are public, the compute is fungible: the only differentiator is data. But deepseek demonstrates that it’s somewhat easy to siphon data off other models so… yeah unclear where the moat is.

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by vineyardmike »

sothatsit wrote: post #81
Ataraxic wrote: post #40

I need to see a video of what people are doing to hit the max limits regularly. I find sonnet really useful for coding but I never even hit basic limits. at $20/mo. Writing specs, coming up with documentation, doing wrote tasks for which many examples exist in the database. Iterate on particular services etc. Are these max users having it write the whole codebase w/ rewrites? Isn't it often just faster to fix small t…

I can tell you how I hit it: Opus and long workflows. I have two big workflows: plan and implement. Plan follows a detailed workflow to research an idea and produce a planning document for how to implement it. This routinely takes $10-30 in API credits to run in the background. I will then review this 200-600 line document and fix up any mistakes or remove unnecessary details. Then implement is usually cheaper, and i…

This is very interesting as a workflow. How “big” are the asks you’re giving Claude? Can you give an example of the type of question you’d ask it to implement where it requires a discrete planning document that long?

Whenever I use it, I typically do much smaller asks, eg “add a button here”, “make that button trigger a refresh with a filter of such state…”

Re: Anthropic tightens usage limits for Claude Code without telling users

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Post by skort »

thr0waway001 wrote: post #24

> One user, who asked not to be identified, said it has been impossible to advance his project since the usage limits came into effect. Vibe limit reached. Gotta start doing some thinking.

Right, but these companies are selling their products on the basis that you can offload a good amount of the thinking. And it seems a good deal of investment in AI is also based on this premise. I don't disagree with you, but it's sorta fucked that so much money has been pumped into this and that markets seem to still be okay with it all.
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