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ChatGPT agent: bridging research and action

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Re: ChatGPT agent: bridging research and action

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Post by Forgeties79 »

divan wrote: post #218

And I'm still waiting for the simple feature – the ability to edit documents in projects. I use projects for working on different documents - articles, research, scripts, etc. And would absolutely love to write it paragraph after paragraph with the help of ChatGPT for phrasing and using the project knowledge. Or using voice mode - i.e. on a walk "Hey, where did we finish that document - let's continue. Read the last…

>I feel like AI agents for coding are advancing at a breakneck speed, but assistance in writing is still limited to copy-pasting.

Man I was talking about this with a colleague 30min ago. Half the time i can't be bothered to open chat gpt and do the copy/paste dance. I know that sounds ridiculous but roundtripping gets old and breaks my flow. Working in NLE's with plug-in's, VTT's, etc. has spoiled me.

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Post by thornewolf »

biker142541 wrote: post #204
jjcm wrote: post #2

For me the most interesting example on this page is the sticker gif halfway down the page. Up until now, chatbots haven't really affected the real world for me†. This feels like one of the first moments where LLMs will start affecting the physical world. I type a prompt and something shows up at my doorstep. I wonder how much of the world economy will be driven by LLM-based orders in the next 10 years. † yes I'm awar…

I just want to know what the insurance looks like behind this, lol. An agent mistakenly places an order for 500k instead of 500 stickers at some premium pricing tier above intended one. Sorry, read the fine print, and you're using at your own risk?

I haven't looked at OpenAI's ToS but try and track down a phrase called "indemnity clause". It's in some of Google's GCP ToS. TLDR it means "we (Google) will pay for ur lawsuit if something you do using our APIs get you sued"

Not legal advice, etc.

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Post by [deleted] »

pants2 wrote: post #70

I've been using OpenAI operator for some time - but more and more websites are blocking it, such as LinkedIn and Amazon. That's two key use-cases gone (applying to jobs and online shopping). Operator is pretty low-key, but once Agent starts getting popular, more sites will block it. They'll need to allow a proxy configuration or something like that.

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Post by slg »

Aurornis wrote: post #127
twalkz wrote: post #30

The "spreadsheet" example video is kind of funny: guy talks about how it normally takes him 4 to 8 hours to put together complicated, data-heavy reports. Now he fires off an agent request, goes to walk his dog, and comes back to a downloadable spreadsheet of dense data, which he pulls up and says "I think it got 98% of the information correct... I just needed to copy / paste a few things. If it can do 90 - 95% of the…

> how it normally takes him 4 to 8 hours to put together complicated, data-heavy reports. Now he fires off an agent request, goes to walk his dog, and comes back to a downloadable spreadsheet of dense data, which he pulls up and says "I think it got 98% of the information correct... This is where the AI hype bites people. A great use of AI in this situation would be to automate the collection and checking of data. Se…

The proper use of these systems is to treat them like an intern or new grad hire. You can give them the work that none of the mid-tier or senior people want to do, thereby speeding up the team. But you will have to review their work thoroughly because there is a good chance they have no idea what they are actually doing. If you give them mission-critical work that demands accuracy or just let them have free rein without keeping an eye on them, there is a good chance you are going to regret it.

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Post by chrisgd »

twalkz wrote: post #30

The "spreadsheet" example video is kind of funny: guy talks about how it normally takes him 4 to 8 hours to put together complicated, data-heavy reports. Now he fires off an agent request, goes to walk his dog, and comes back to a downloadable spreadsheet of dense data, which he pulls up and says "I think it got 98% of the information correct... I just needed to copy / paste a few things. If it can do 90 - 95% of the…

Great point. Plus, working on your laptop on a couch is not ideal for deep excel work

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Post by tomjen3 »

alach11 wrote: post #14

It's very hard for me to imagine the current level of agents serving a useful purpose in my personal life. If I ask this to plan a date night with my wife this weekend, it needs to consult my calendar to pick the best night, pick a bar and restaurant we like (how would it know?), book a babysitter (can it learn who we use and text them on my behalf?), etc. This is a lot of stuff it has to get right, and it requires a…

I am not sure I see most of this as a problem. For an agent you would want to write some longer instructions than just "book me an aniversery dinner with my wife".

You would want to write a couple paragraphs outlining what you were hoping to get (maybe the waterfront view was the important thing? Maybe the specific place?)

As for booking a babysitter - if you don't already have a specific person in mind (I don't have kids), then that is likely a separate search. If you do, then their availability is a limiting factor, in just the same way your calendar was and no one, not you, not an agent, not a secretary, can confirm the restaurant unless/until you hear back from them.

As an inspiration for the query, here is one I used with Chat GPT earlier:

>I live in . I need a place to get a good quality haircut close to where I live. Its important that the place has opening hours outside my 8:00 to 16:00 mon-fri job and good reviews. > >I am not sensitive to the price. Go online and find places near my home. Find recent reviews and list the places, their names, a summary of the reviews and their opening hours. > >Thank you

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Post by Forgeties79 »

AgentMatrixAI wrote: post #47

I'm not so optimistic as someone that works on agents for businesses and creating tools for it. The leap from low 90s to 99% is classic last mile problem for LLM agents. The more generic and spread an agent is (can-do-it-all) the more likely it will fail and disappoint. Can't help but feel many are optimizing happy paths in their demos and hiding the true reality. Doesn't mean there isn't a place for agents but rathe…

>The more generic and spread an agent is (can-do-it-all) the more likely it will fail and disappoint.

To your point - the most impressive AI tool (not an LLM but bear with me) I have used to date, and I loathe giving Adobe any credit, is Adobe's Audio Enhance tool. It has brought back audio that prior to it I would throw out or, if the client was lucky, would charge thousands of dollars and spend weeks working on to repair to get it half as good as that thing spits out in minutes. Not only is it good at salvaging terrible audio, it can make mediocre zoom audio sound almost like it was recorded in a proper studio. It is truly magic to me.

Warning: don't feed it music lol it tries to make the sounds into words. That being said, you can get some wild effects when you do it!

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Post by bGl2YW5j »

miles_matthias wrote: post #83
alach11 wrote: post #14

It's very hard for me to imagine the current level of agents serving a useful purpose in my personal life. If I ask this to plan a date night with my wife this weekend, it needs to consult my calendar to pick the best night, pick a bar and restaurant we like (how would it know?), book a babysitter (can it learn who we use and text them on my behalf?), etc. This is a lot of stuff it has to get right, and it requires a…

I think what's interesting here is that it's a super cheap version of what many busy people already do -- hire a person to help do this. Why? Because the interface is easier and often less disruptive to our life. Instead of hopping from website to website, I'm just responding to a targeted imessage question from my human assistant "I think you should go with this , that work?" The next time I need to plan a date nigh…

Yes! I’ve been thinking along similar lines: agents and LLMs are exposing the worst parts of the ergonomics of our current interfaces and tools (eg programming languages, frameworks).

I reckon there’s a lot to be said for fixing or tweaking the underlying UX of things, as opposed to brute forcing things with an expensive LLM.

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Post by tomjen3 »

biker142541 wrote: post #204
jjcm wrote: post #2

For me the most interesting example on this page is the sticker gif halfway down the page. Up until now, chatbots haven't really affected the real world for me†. This feels like one of the first moments where LLMs will start affecting the physical world. I type a prompt and something shows up at my doorstep. I wonder how much of the world economy will be driven by LLM-based orders in the next 10 years. † yes I'm awar…

I just want to know what the insurance looks like behind this, lol. An agent mistakenly places an order for 500k instead of 500 stickers at some premium pricing tier above intended one. Sorry, read the fine print, and you're using at your own risk?

My credit card company will reject the transfer, and the company won't create the stickers in the first place.
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