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Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by xnx »

J_McQuade wrote: post #4

I always feel really grotty about evangelising for products, but I switched to Kagi about six months ago and it really is a better experience. In almost all cases, the search results are as good as or better than Google, and I don't have to scroll through an increasing number of misleading ads to see them. I'm a happy customer. When I first switched, I would often click the button to run the search on google for quer…

> the search results are as good as or better than Google, and I don't have to scroll through an increasing number of misleading ads to see them.

It's been a long time since I've clicked a search result or seen an ad. Google usually has what I need right on the page and uBlock removes the ads.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by jwr »

Unfortunately, Kagi works with Russian companies and pays them money, which in my book is a no-no. I do not want any of my money to contribute to the Russian economy in any way, because I know what is happening to people in Ukraine.

(I was a Kagi subscriber, no more, because of this)

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by Chief_Searcha »

PokemonNoGo wrote: post #3

Do they still use Yandex? >I’ve been a happy Kagi user since early 2023 I was an unhappy Kagi user when I learnt it relied on Russian back ends fueling a war. Now I'm not a user anymore.

There have been times when I loved and times when I absolutely hated Yandex. That being said, I am not going to disown everything associated with Russia. Also they are distancing themselves. It's far from perfect but the more independent indexes the better even if you disagree with those particular indexes.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by [deleted] »

jwr wrote: post #12

Unfortunately, Kagi works with Russian companies and pays them money, which in my book is a no-no. I do not want any of my money to contribute to the Russian economy in any way, because I know what is happening to people in Ukraine. (I was a Kagi subscriber, no more, because of this)

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Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by jwr »

junon wrote: post #7
PokemonNoGo wrote: post #3

Do they still use Yandex? >I’ve been a happy Kagi user since early 2023 I was an unhappy Kagi user when I learnt it relied on Russian back ends fueling a war. Now I'm not a user anymore.

They have search results from Yandex among others, yes, and Yandex isn't really a Russian company anymore.

See for example https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/publications/zois-spotlight/th...

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by neurobashing »

jwr wrote: post #12

Unfortunately, Kagi works with Russian companies and pays them money, which in my book is a no-no. I do not want any of my money to contribute to the Russian economy in any way, because I know what is happening to people in Ukraine. (I was a Kagi subscriber, no more, because of this)

can you perhaps elaborate on which companies and in what capacity?

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by jwr »

ajdude wrote: post #5
PokemonNoGo wrote: post #3

Do they still use Yandex? >I’ve been a happy Kagi user since early 2023 I was an unhappy Kagi user when I learnt it relied on Russian back ends fueling a war. Now I'm not a user anymore.

Do you have any links / sources for this?

They were asked to stop and refused:

https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by EA-3167 »

jwr wrote: post #12

Unfortunately, Kagi works with Russian companies and pays them money, which in my book is a no-no. I do not want any of my money to contribute to the Russian economy in any way, because I know what is happening to people in Ukraine. (I was a Kagi subscriber, no more, because of this)

Wait until you hear about the EU! https://e360.yale.edu/digest/europe-russia-ukraine-war-natur...

Hell, a Spanish company just violated export sanctions and sold a machine used to make artillery barrels to Russia, and the Spanish government just shrugged. I'm not sure why Kagi has to be squeaky clean down to the last dollar when our own governments don't even have to meaningfully enforce their own sanctions.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by barbazoo »

J_McQuade wrote: post #4

I always feel really grotty about evangelising for products, but I switched to Kagi about six months ago and it really is a better experience. In almost all cases, the search results are as good as or better than Google, and I don't have to scroll through an increasing number of misleading ads to see them. I'm a happy customer. When I first switched, I would often click the button to run the search on google for quer…

> When I first switched, I would often click the button to run the search on google for queries that weren't immediately giving me what I wanted

Same, I found it took a while to adjust my searching too. Kagi is much more sensitive to spelling things wrong. Google gets around that by only using the search query as an inspiration but that also introduces a lot of fuzziness in the result IMO. With Kagi, you get as much out of it as you put in is what it feels like to me. It's slightly harder to find things sometimes, sure, but at least we're using a product instead of being the product and that adds enough value for me for this to be the better deal overall.

Re: How I Use Kagi

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Post by jwr »

neurobashing wrote: post #16
jwr wrote: post #12

Unfortunately, Kagi works with Russian companies and pays them money, which in my book is a no-no. I do not want any of my money to contribute to the Russian economy in any way, because I know what is happening to people in Ukraine. (I was a Kagi subscriber, no more, because of this)

can you perhaps elaborate on which companies and in what capacity?

Yes, Yandex, they pay them for some of their search results. Here is their own statement, where they refuse to stop, even though people keep asking them: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
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