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Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Post by p_v_doom »

bubblebeard wrote: post #28
jaredcwhite wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We keep complaining because Big Tech keeps shoving this unmitigated garbage down our collective throats. When the boot is on the neck, you don't stop complaining until it has been removed. It's as simple as that.

Yes, but you placing your neck under that boot is a free choice. I admit, sometimes a little tricky to avoid, but a free choice still. As far as I know, there is always an option but please correct me if I am wrong. With that said I think technology overall has become increasingly worse over the years in some ways. God, do I miss a TV without an OS.

Nah its not. You dont have a lot of free choice here, and your options are very severely biased. Its a bit like the old christian thing where you are free to choose, but if you dont choose JC you go to hell...

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Post by johannboehme »

No, not really. The power button on the galaxy was previously a bixby button. They just changed the assistant that gets called uppon. AI Suggestions in search engines are sometimes practical and you can always choose to ignore them. AI is only a net loss for humans that use it instead of thinking. Used well its an incredible tool. Same goes to ownership offloading. Our company heavily encourages AI use, but the work you create with it is your responsibility. So if you dont check it, you are the one to blame. The energy consumption is really a thing that needs to be talked about, but its not that bad as its often stated. We already use buttloads of energy to stream movies, stream games, do stupid crypto stuff and the amount of bad mouthing AI gets for its energy consumption is just not proportional. If i run a local LLM on my GPU i am a forest killer, but using the same GPU to run a heavy game is ok?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Post by sjw987 »

I hope that what comes from the LLM (I can't call it AI) revolution is a serious society-wide look and discussion about the false economy we currently live in and some ideas to change it.

Let's face it. Huge portions of the population are performing unnecessary jobs in order to sustain themselves. Most products and services available to us today are unnecessary, unsustainable, destructive (economically and socially), and many represent a huge bubble which will hurt us down the line. LLM have exposed the sort of office jobs which have been automatable for years.

We are killing ourselves mentally and spiritually, as well as the planet we live on, so everybody can drive to offices to respond to emails or to create carbon-copies of the same already existing products and hoping marketing makes the difference.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Post by weebull »

bubblebeard wrote: post #28
jaredcwhite wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We keep complaining because Big Tech keeps shoving this unmitigated garbage down our collective throats. When the boot is on the neck, you don't stop complaining until it has been removed. It's as simple as that.

Yes, but you placing your neck under that boot is a free choice. I admit, sometimes a little tricky to avoid, but a free choice still. As far as I know, there is always an option but please correct me if I am wrong. With that said I think technology overall has become increasingly worse over the years in some ways. God, do I miss a TV without an OS.

> Yes, but you placing your neck under that boot is a free choice.

Bollocks. We're not talking about going to a chat bot and asking questions. That's a free choice. It's insertion into every facet of online life is unavoidable and far more destructive.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Post by TheTxT »

andy_ng wrote: post #29

I hear your concern, and you're absolutely right to be thinking about this. It's true that AI development involves intense competition, and that can feel overwhelming - like we're all just passengers on a train we can't control. But I don't think we're as powerless as it might seem. Throughout history, we've found ways to guide powerful technologies toward better outcomes, even when there were strong economic incenti…

A little ironic to be posting LLM replies about this topic

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Post by UncleMeat »

linotype wrote: post #17

I’m beyond tired of hearing people complain about AI. Just stop already. If you don’t like it, don’t use it, find a job where people don’t like it and work there. It’s exhausting how Luddite the tech community has unironically become.

I can't "not use it" when my medical insurance sticks an AI between me and the ability to talk to a human or uses an AI to deny my insurance claims.

I can't "not use it" when my VP uses an AI to decide who to lay off in the next wave of cuts.

I can't "not use it" when my governor sets up an AI review of statewide regulation to decide what regulation to remove.

"My boss says that I have to use an LLM to program" is way way way below my worries of "society's bosses use LLMs to entrench their power and abuse labor because they are upset about the labor gains made in the post-covid era."

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Post by malfist »

linotype wrote: post #17

I’m beyond tired of hearing people complain about AI. Just stop already. If you don’t like it, don’t use it, find a job where people don’t like it and work there. It’s exhausting how Luddite the tech community has unironically become.

I'd love to not use it. Can you tell me how to keep Android or Microsoft or Google from shoving it everywhere, raising prices for that privilege and hoovering up all my data with it?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else tired of AI being forced on you?

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Post by paulcole »

> AI uses 10x the energy (and thus 10x carbon emissions) as search

This says more that search takes almost no energy than it does about the huge environmental toll of AI.

In this day and age when “but the environment!” Is one of your key arguments, you’ve already lost. The environment is cooked and nobody cares. People (in the societal sense) say they care but every action they take says the opposite.

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