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Signs of autism could be encoded in the way you walk

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Re: Signs of autism could be encoded in the way you walk

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I dunno, this seems kind of junk sciency. There's all kinds of reasons to walk all kinds of ways. Walking on toes, or pointing your feet have almost never been a notable feature of people I know who are clearly on the spectrum. Conversely, the people I know who do have notable gaits all come from something else and none of them (as far as I know) have autism. Anecdata: My paternal side has some kind of innate prefere…

> that turn into self-inhibiting labels that restrict personal development Say more. Why do you see these labels as inhibitory rather than liberatory? I have a complicated relationship with the label given a lack of a formal diagnosis and many years of accusations of ASD, and I haven't identified any positive side of a diagnosis and will likely never pursue one. But this doesn't mean the label hasn't helped me connec…

I think labels are fine but making it the most significant part of your identity is where it can be self-inhibiting. If you feel engaged in life and not limited, you are doing just fine.

Re: Signs of autism could be encoded in the way you walk

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I'm sure everyone involved means well, but we are really starting to embrace a culture of defining "normal" down to some arbitrary amount that seems to have no floor. I'm all for making sure that effective treatments are made available to anyone they might help, but couldn't a lot of this be addressed society just...being tolerant of diversity in people? Gating everyone through "thrives in American High School" as a…

If you have autism and experience dysfunction at such a small level that you can put the blame on other people, then consider yourself extremely lucky. I volunteer at an autism center and many of those individuals struggle to maintain hygiene, feed themselves, and perform other basic aspects of living in ways that persist regardless of how tolerant their peers may or may not be.

Of course, these individuals are not at all active on social media so you very rarely see them represented.

Re: Signs of autism could be encoded in the way you walk

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I am hesitant to post this because of JFK JR and ignoring with the politicians in power against ASD. Gait is not constant in the stride. It all depends on the footwear. The constant for me is being silent while walking. Be the ball of your feet or the heels. Having auditory issues / sensitive to sound, I walk to be silent and unheard. Walking and scaring wildlife and other humans was a personally taught process. I ca…

> I want to walk up to a person and they don't know.

That’s usually not cool.

Re: Signs of autism could be encoded in the way you walk

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Considering 25-30% of autistic individuals suffer from hypermobility / Ehler Danlos [1], finding out this affects their gait makes sense. Interesting to have no mention of this in the current study though.

[1] Autism in the context of joint hypermobility, hypermobility spectrum disorders, and Ehlers–Danlos syndromes: A systematic review and prevalence meta-analyses https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/13623613251328059

Re: Signs of autism could be encoded in the way you walk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend to agree, as an autistic person. And a lot of autistic people hold the belief that, "My autism is not a problem, your expectations that I behave like you do are the problem." If I need to move a little differently, or not hold eye contact when I speak, the fact that I get made fun of is the problem. If we just accepted, "hey, some people are like that" more, I think we'd have a lot fewer problems.

> If we just accepted, "hey, some people are like that" more, I think we'd have a lot fewer problems. This is how much of the world works. Johnny doesn't have autism, he's just really into trains. It would be incredibly rude to say much more.

Hacker news (or social media in general) echo chamber

Re: Signs of autism could be encoded in the way you walk

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I'm sure everyone involved means well, but we are really starting to embrace a culture of defining "normal" down to some arbitrary amount that seems to have no floor. I'm all for making sure that effective treatments are made available to anyone they might help, but couldn't a lot of this be addressed society just...being tolerant of diversity in people? Gating everyone through "thrives in American High School" as a…

Society is tolerant of diversity in people.

Doesn't feel that as a foreigner in Japan during the current election cycle, I'll tell you that.

Re: Signs of autism could be encoded in the way you walk

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I'm sure everyone involved means well, but we are really starting to embrace a culture of defining "normal" down to some arbitrary amount that seems to have no floor. I'm all for making sure that effective treatments are made available to anyone they might help, but couldn't a lot of this be addressed society just...being tolerant of diversity in people? Gating everyone through "thrives in American High School" as a…

There's a fine line between recognizing patterns that might need support, and pathologizing anything outside a narrow "norm."
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