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I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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We've seen this story play out before. Every phone manufacturer has had the bright idea of introducing a small flagship. They spend a ton of money developing and marketing it. Internet people get excited. And when launched - no one buys it. They learn their lesson and move on.

> They spend a ton of money developing and marketing it.

I beg to differ. How much marketing money did Apple spend on the mini line, in comparison to the "standard" size ?

> And when launched - no one buys it.

Pixel 3 and 4a are still the most sold phones in the Pixel line.

The news when Pixel7 was launched:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/this-is-the...

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The general population wants larger phones because they are addicted to their screens.

For most people the phone is their only computer. Who bring laptop to a friend group hangout anymore ? Only the techies.

Well, do you think this is a good state of affairs? On one hand, phones are pretty accessible devices, on the other hand there are many aspects of phones that are objectively pretty terrible for consumers (talking about cost and difficulty of repair, walled garden ecosystems, and generally being geared towards consuming things and a lot less effective at producing them than laptops and desktops.)

(Tangential: of course I don't blame anyone for bringing their phone with them everywhere but if you're going to go to a friend group hangout, consider how annoying it is when you're trying to talk to someone and they're clearly checked out browsing some slop on Twitter or talking to someone else entirely. Take a damn break from the phone!)

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The best phone I ever had was a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact. I would still be using it if it wasn't too slow to run modern versions of android. This is one of those things that just makes me feel so out of touch with the rest of the world. Does everyone else have giant pockets and giant hands? Does everyone use their phone with two hands and carry a bag everywhere? Is it just a trend like small phones were a trend before…

For more and more people, their phone is their primary (or only) device. On a day to day, I have more face time with my phone than my personal laptop.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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We've seen this story play out before. Every phone manufacturer has had the bright idea of introducing a small flagship. They spend a ton of money developing and marketing it. Internet people get excited. And when launched - no one buys it. They learn their lesson and move on.

It does not surprise me that the things that "internet" people want are not generally popular. What I don't understand is why that means they can't make money selling them anyways. Companies used to make money when the entire cell phone market was _dramatically_ smaller than today. Sure, maybe only 5% of customers want that phone, but 5% of a huge market is still a lot of people! I just have trouble believing that there isn't room for serving that segment of the consumer base.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Out of curiosity, why's it your last Apple product? Watching lots of Louis Rossmann has put me almost ideologically against Apple (even though they design great hardware and smooth UX within their ecosystem), but I'm not good at forming coherent points to present to Apple loving friends. For me so far, I think it's about control over what I buy - but the rebuttal is always "you're buying a product from them, if you d…

I just don't see the value add anymore and the company appears to have lost its product vision and the design sensibilities are slipping. Apple is controlled by a geriatric board and a logistics expert and it shows. I feel I am more frequently encountering software bugs, vaporware,(dESiGnEd fOr ApPle InTelLiGeNce), and ridiculous "innovation" (genmoji). I feel the hardware advances are not very relevant to me, I don'…

So you’re making voip calls on your thinkpad?

That’s cool, but you represent a tiny slice of the market that as devices get more powerful, isn’t addressable in the low volumes needed to make you happy.

When the chips needed to make a phone are priced like toys, maybe you’ll find the product for you.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't see the value add anymore and the company appears to have lost its product vision and the design sensibilities are slipping. Apple is controlled by a geriatric board and a logistics expert and it shows. I feel I am more frequently encountering software bugs, vaporware,(dESiGnEd fOr ApPle InTelLiGeNce), and ridiculous "innovation" (genmoji). I feel the hardware advances are not very relevant to me, I don'…

What Linux computer can you buy with the battery life, quietness, lack of heat and speed of a modern ARM based Mac? As far as phones - your alternative is to buy an Android phone with an operating system by an ad company that is also pushing AI just as hard. And you still end up getting most apps from the Google Play Store. By the way, iMessage supports SMS/MMS/RCS for interoperability. What else do you want?

> What Linux computer can you buy with the battery life, quietness, lack of heat and speed of a modern ARM based Mac?

M1 Air or M2 Air, running Asahi Linux. I am posting this using my M1 Air, running Fedora Asahi.

> As far as phones - your alternative is to buy an Android phone with an operating system by an ad company that is also pushing AI just as hard.

I use Fairphone 4 with Ubuntu Touch.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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I used the iPhone SE 1 until January of this year, it was such a great phone and a great form factor. I wrote an article about it to send it off: https://blog.bschwind.com/2025/01/11/the-original-iphone-se-...

the ip12/13 mini have similar footprint, but with modern feature.
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