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I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Funnily enough, I don't consider the iPhone 12/13 mini miniature at all. Granted, my hands are quite small even for someone of my height (5'7"), but remember those times people made fun of the iPhone 5 and of how gigantic it felt compared to 4S? I don't think human hands have grown that much since then. And I still believe the 1st generation SE is the best smartphone Apple has ever released: a rectangular screen, no camera bumps, a fingerprint sensor (that is still faster than Face ID), a mini jack, light, affordable, etc.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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My cynical take is that small phones don't exist because they are not the product. Similar to vape pens the product is the addictive substance the device loads. In this case its apps and ads. A smaller screen probably negatively impacts KPIs on many levels, at Google/Apple/Meta/X and on down through the ecosystem. I understand that Apple did not make enough money to make it worth their while to continue the iphone mi…

The margins are also worse, which is way, way closer to a manufacturer’s bottom line than the software ecosystem.

There is demand for larger phones, yes, but manufacturers also charge more for bigger devices and most of that is margin. Following their own logic, they also charge less for smaller phones.

If your customers are sticky, then many of the people who buy the smaller phone would have otherwise bought a bigger phone for more money. Introducing a smaller phone brings down profits.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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The best phone I ever had was a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact. I would still be using it if it wasn't too slow to run modern versions of android. This is one of those things that just makes me feel so out of touch with the rest of the world. Does everyone else have giant pockets and giant hands? Does everyone use their phone with two hands and carry a bag everywhere? Is it just a trend like small phones were a trend before smartphones? Why do people want these giant phones?

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

#105

The best phone I ever had was a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact. I would still be using it if it wasn't too slow to run modern versions of android. This is one of those things that just makes me feel so out of touch with the rest of the world. Does everyone else have giant pockets and giant hands? Does everyone use their phone with two hands and carry a bag everywhere? Is it just a trend like small phones were a trend before…

> Why do people want these giant phones?

Most people only use computers at work, solely relying on smartphones for communication, media, shopping, etc.

It makes sense to have a big screen at inconvenience of having to carry it around.

What surprises me is how small the demand for small phones is. I have absolutely no need for a big screen - I have a monitor.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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post #8

My cynical take is that small phones don't exist because they are not the product. Similar to vape pens the product is the addictive substance the device loads. In this case its apps and ads. A smaller screen probably negatively impacts KPIs on many levels, at Google/Apple/Meta/X and on down through the ecosystem. I understand that Apple did not make enough money to make it worth their while to continue the iphone mi…

You’re way too cynical and have let your cynicism cloud history. The first phablets were probably the Galaxy Note line starting in 2011 which was met with some skepticism due to the size of them. These were well before the edge to edge screen days. So you had 5.7 inch screens with a bezel. They were huge but I would routinely see small women pull these things out of their hand bags and press a device that obscured al…

Parent's take is not whether bigger phones shouldn't exist, it's why smaller phones stopped being produced, which is a fairly different angle.

> women

To note, the initial smartphones were already too big for he taste of many: a clamshell feature phone was almost a third of the size of the original iPhone. From that POV, going to a phone that is twice as big is less of a barrier, as they had to keep it in a bag/purse in the first place.

The return of foldables is also pretty well received in that regard.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

#107

Funny enough, in 2023, Asus released a good very close to iphone Mini-size android phone. The asus zenfone 10. https://www.asus.com/us/mobile-handhelds/phones/zenfone/zenf...

Despite sibling comments, it's still a smaller phone compared to others from the same year. I have one and I'm extremely satisfied with it.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

#108
I have an xperia compact phone I bought for $50 in Japan. It's a bit slow, but I don't do much on it other than jot down notes, maps, photos (the lens is a bit broken so it creates a cool lens flare effect), and messaging. Fits nicely in my pocket and hand. A giant phone just seems so silly to me.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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I want a thick clunky device without a screen that can run for 4-7 days without charging. Then i want 1) a normal size device, 2) a tiny one and 3) a tablet. These should be terminals, little more than a screen, a battery and some radio to communicate with the herefore mentioned brick that does all of the heavy lifting. It needs only 20-30 meter range. The brick may also feature a webserver captive portal with public…

Except that the screen and the radio are 80% of power usage, so this doesn't help anything. For what most people do with their laptop/tablet/phone, the little bursts of CPU are effectively "free" — increasingly cheap with each process shrink! — while the IO is as expensive as ever.

What fun comment. You are mistaken in so many ways :)

When idle GSM uses a lot of power. Listening for a wakeup signal doesnt seem expensive at all. It even seems one could pull off the trick for free.

Free There shall be e-paper ofc

The brick can have a battery like that of a quality powerbank. For emergency charging the display snaps on top with some magnets.

There will be heavy cpu loads with lots of reads and writes.

Think a room full of people hammering the media server.

Host websites on it. Imagine the fun!

GPUs may work quite hard to decode and fit the picture on the screen. How to do io better is left as an exersize for the reader. (这意味着你)

Whatever components we can get rid of buys extra space for the battery.

It also makes the handheld device cheaper to replace.

You may swap the battery or have a spare.(slide the empty one into the brick)

You may also break or lose it. It can conveniently be replaced. Nothing important is stored on it.

Lets make them with and without cameras. Imagine the opportunity to not make photos :)

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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post #39
post #8

My cynical take is that small phones don't exist because they are not the product. Similar to vape pens the product is the addictive substance the device loads. In this case its apps and ads. A smaller screen probably negatively impacts KPIs on many levels, at Google/Apple/Meta/X and on down through the ecosystem. I understand that Apple did not make enough money to make it worth their while to continue the iphone mi…

>No major player wants a smaller screen because it has downstream impacts on the pipeline of addictive material and ad pixels they can stuff into ocular nerves. There are lots of phone manufacturers who have no ads business. They just make phones so why would they care? Size is dictated by trouser pocket size/handbag size and usage. Editing photos and movies to upload onto social media is probably better on a big scr…

> There are lots of phone manufacturers who have no ads business. They just make phones so why would they care?

There are still bound to the screen resolution dictated by the platforms/environment. A maker selling an android phone with a 480x640px screen would face a huge uphill battle to see any sales.

Going for a smaller physical screen means higher DPI, so higher production costs and quality control issues. It can make more sense to buy cheaper, low DPI screen and make the whole device bigger to match the needed pixel count.

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