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Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by jjani »

umeshunni wrote: post #295
yakattak wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of these agentic IDEs could just be visual studio code plugins. They’re likely not because how do you secure VC funding for a plugin?

More importantly - how do you monetize a plugin?

You.. require a subscription. These have existed long before LLM-assisted coding was a thing.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by mdaniel »

tristan957 wrote: post #207
Tokumei-no-hito wrote: post #116

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why doesn't it support them?

The remote containers extension on VSCode is proprietary. Cursor had to write their remote extension suite.

If only we had some tooling that would implement features based on requirements, what a world we would live in

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by consumer451 »

baalimago wrote: post #380

1000 interactions ($20/month) will run out in a 1-2 hours. Do the math for 3000 interactions. Kiro has the same problem as many LLM coding tools has: it's not economically sustainable for the company producing the tool (bubble will burst at some point), or it's not worth it for the developer.

I see this time period of coding agents along the lines of riding early Uber. Take advantage of the VC/investment money while you can.

The last few months have been a great time to build, subsidized by others!

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by stillpointlab »

a5c11 wrote: post #469
stillpointlab wrote: post #382

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> Natural language is trying to be a new programming language, one of many, but it's the least precise one imho. I disagree that natural language is trying to be a programming language. I disagree that being less precise is a flaw. Consider: - https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc793.txt - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2616 I think we can agree these are both documents written in natural language. They underpin the…

> I disagree that being less precise is a flaw. > Biological evolution shows us how far you can get with "good enough". That are valid points when speaking about human-human interactions where we can allow ourselves for much more freedom in forming thoughts. But still, written text never will be as expressive as face to face communication when you can hear, see and feel emotions. So even for humans, a raw text is not…

> Natural language is not sufficient to give precise instructions

On consideration, this is the core of our disagreement and it is probably one that we will not see past.

I have to assume that you see human/computer interactions as master-slave relations. You are the master providing instructions and the computer is a slave that MUST do precisely what you instruct it to do. I would wager that you feel frustrated when you deal with other people who choose to do things in a way that is different than how you want them to be done.

One thing I was taught when I became a manager was that I should focus on outcomes. I should explain to people what the result I wanted was, rather than to be really picky about the implementation. I found that sometimes people could realize my desired outcomes in a way that was better than I would have done it. It was enlightening.

There is an idiom in English, about winning the battle but losing the war. It is when a person becomes so obsessed with controlling tiny details that they lose sight of the overall goal.

I doubt we will see eye-to-eye on this, but I am arguing that we will have better outcomes if we obsess less about the details of how computers implement our goals and we spend more time focusing on the goals we want to achieve.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by mighty_plant »

jetslab wrote: post #467

hey, the Kiro hangs on the login page and doesn't redirect It hangs on "we will take you to the default browser to sign in and bring you back when it's complete" I am using Linux Mint, I can see some errors in the console I am not sure if the have something to do with it ``` 2workbench.desktop.main.js:2188 Got token path with schema file and path /home/jc/.aws/sso/cache/kiro-auth-token.json workbench.desktop.main.js:…

Same here on Arch Linux. Sign in does not open the browser.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by nsonha »

danudey wrote: post #474
nsonha wrote: post #466

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do we want to make "vibe code" the umbrella term for llm, agents or even AI assisted software engineering? I think not.

I think that ship has sailed at this point.

no, vibe code currently means code with AI and not reviewing the code.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by norm5980 »

jetslab wrote: post #467

hey, the Kiro hangs on the login page and doesn't redirect It hangs on "we will take you to the default browser to sign in and bring you back when it's complete" I am using Linux Mint, I can see some errors in the console I am not sure if the have something to do with it ``` 2workbench.desktop.main.js:2188 Got token path with schema file and path /home/jc/.aws/sso/cache/kiro-auth-token.json workbench.desktop.main.js:…

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