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Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by tremon »

aquova wrote: post #32
shaunpud wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the Windows license was burned into the BIOS, so a reinstall would pick it up automatically?

That might be even worse then, you'd be reselling a machine which was licensed under the previous owner's Windows key

In case of OEM, the license is never directly owned by the owner of the machine; the license is tied to the hardware, and you're selling it on with its license key attached. If you activate Windows using a bought license, that license does not get copied into the hardware.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by scarface_74 »

ryandrake wrote: post #417
scarface_74 wrote: post #327

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I had my first personal computer in 1986. But I can easily do all of those things just as conveniently on my phone. 90% of tax payers claim the standard deduction. That means filing your taxes just means going to Turbo tax and it importing your W2’s automatically if your employer uses one of the major payment providers like ADP or worse case taking a picture of your W2, clicking “Next” a few times after answering a f…

> 90% of tax payers claim the standard deduction. That means filing your taxes just means going to Turbo tax and it importing your W2’s automatically Why even pay TurboTax if you're just taking the standard deduction and have only W2 income? Might as well just paper file for free. Anything more complex than that, and having a desktop monitor and full size keyboard is very useful. I can imagine even filling out 5 stoc…

Spending $30 bucks to save time once per year is well worth it to me. I live in a state without state taxes so I don’t have to pay for state filing.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by palata »

cherryteastain wrote: post #297
zozbot234 wrote: post #120

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Android systems don't even run the linux kernel in any real sense, pretty much every downstream kernel has millions of lines of patched code that will never make it upstream in their current form. Of course, that's no different from mostly any other "Linux" embedded device, but it's very different indeed from what's standard on desktop systems.

Android is Linux Android is not GNU/Linux. Article talks about GNU/Linux clearly. There is a point to the whole "I'd like to interject for a moment..." copypasta and Android's situation is the clearest illustration of it.

> Article talks about GNU/Linux clearly.

There are Linux distributions that don't use the GNU userland. Should we start being pedantic about that? And say Busybox/Linux or MyCustomThingy/Linux etc?

And actually, were you talking about GNU/Linux/Xorg, or GNU/Linux/Wayland? Can I also ask people to mention which libc they use? Alpine is OpenRC/Busybox/musl/Linux, which is not systemd/GNU/glibc/Linux.

So yeah... Desktop Linux is not worse a way to describe an OS than GNU/Linux.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by Klonoar »

bigyabai wrote: post #471
jorvi wrote: post #352

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You are being obtuse. 99% of Steam Deck users won't ever use the desktop mode except for maybe setting up emulation or Discord. In general, that makes Steam Deck users no more Linux users than people that use Android.

Android users are Linux users. So are Nintendo Switch users, the whole "can Linux game/be used for mobile" question is already answered.

Errr, isn’t the Switch BSD based? Or am I confusing it with the PS5?

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Post by veber-alex »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #397
meepmorp wrote: post #386

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The "great" part about the Office desktop apps is that they're written in electron, so it's already essentially a web app but somehow worse.

When did they transition from native to electron?

They didn't.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by tremon »

Pxtl wrote: post #385
theandrewbailey wrote: post #3

I work in the refurb division of an e-waste recycling company. Due to licensing costs and our certifications, we can't sell anything with Windows. My coworkers install Ubuntu, but I install Linux Mint. We don't have any clue if people keep using Linux or install Windows, but it's cool to think we're helping to move this needle. Edit: might as well link to the merch: https://www.ebay.com/str/evolutionecycling

How do you keep them auto-updated? I've just started on Mint and I'm disappointed how the software installer/updater still needs the admin password.

You can either configure unattended updates (e.g. cron-apt or unattended-upgrade), or you can give system administration privileges to other users so they can accept pending updates. I don't think the latter is granular enough to only allow package upgrades, it also allows installing/removing packages.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by koolala »

palata wrote: post #91
nerdjon wrote: post #53

I have to wonder how much of this is people switching to Linux vs the larger trend of people not having traditional computers to begin with. Outside of gamers, I don't know anyone that has a computer at home that is not their work laptop if they have one. At least in my circle everyone I know has moved to their general computing being on phones and tablets which is not captured here. So is a solid chunk of this the p…

I agree with your points, except this: > thanks to the Steam Deck [...] but I would be reluctant to call that Linux Desktop anymore than I would call Android an uptick for Linux. The Steam Deck very much runs Linux Desktop. Android runs the Linux kernel, but everything else is different. SteamOS is a Linux distribution based on Arch. If you run your Steam Deck in "desktop mode", it is very much a Linux Desktop (with…

Typing this from my Steam Deck, its the best Linux desktop I've ever had. It's awesome to have my PC also be a handheld when laying in bed. I hope the Deckard has M+KB support too.

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Post by jksmith »

Comment generator: "Concerns about privacy invasions, adware, and forced updates in Windows are pushing users away. Many users are fed up with Microsoft "urging users to train their AI for free"."

1) Windows chatting behind your back causes distrust. And for good reason. 2) Yes, forced updates, but the consumers don't understand that they're just crofters in MSFT's world with all MSFT's products. MSFT will update as much as fits their needs to protect their property, not yours. 3) Re: adware. Part of your relationship with MSFT is that you are the commodity. It's a general internet business revenue model.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by tristor »

Makes sense, I now do the majority of my personal workflows, except for photography, on Arch Linux on a Framework 13 laptop. I still have a M1 MBP for personal use that I primarily use for photography and not much else. There's a very minimal set of "normal" use cases that cannot be served on Linux at this point, and Linux desktops are more stable in the ways that matter to users now than the alternatives.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by erikerikson »

School-Cotton wrote: post #432
erikerikson wrote: post #400

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VsCode works fine on Linux

VS Code and Visual Studio have about as much in common as JavaScript and Java.

I have to admit it's been a bit but when I first made the transition after a couple years using JetBrains, everything I actually used in Visual Studio was in VsCode. I should also admit that a big part of Microsoft strategy from as far back as 2003 was to make things "easy" in a non-translatable way which kept people locked into Visual Studio. Having traversed this divide, I see it now as something akin to different languages for the same concepts. Not unlike learning further programming languages after your first.
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