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Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by jraph »

zozbot234 wrote: post #418
charcircuit wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it dynamically downloads the programs using apt-get. And then runs them as the Termux app. I didn't mean to imply that it put all of the apps into itself at build time. >Android app for each binary is difficult to work with. You could group multiple binaries that belong to a single conceptual app into a single android app. What do you think would make it difficult to work with? I think most of it could be automated…

The principled way of doing this (while coping with the new post-Pie restrictions) would be to build a new "updated" .apk on-device with a new /usr/bin/ equivalent, then have the user explicitly "install" it and relaunch Termux. It would work no different than any live-CD install, or for that matter any other kind of "immutable" OS.

But then, everything runs under the same Termux user app again, just with extra cumbersome steps. And I'm not sure it's possible to do this safely, you need the APK to be signed, and the only way to do this would be to share the private key. And likely to have a good chunk of the Android SDK bundled with Termux. A version that runs on Android anyway.

Not sure it would fly with Google's Play Store policies.

to your parent:

> And then runs them as the Termux app. I didn't mean to imply that it put all of the apps into itself at build time.

ok, got you

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by School-Cotton »

erikerikson wrote: post #400
snarfy wrote: post #333

Someone pinch me when VisualStudio runs under Wine/Proton with at least a silver rating. It is quite literally the only app keeping me on Windows.

VsCode works fine on Linux

VS Code and Visual Studio have about as much in common as JavaScript and Java.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by qwertycrackers »

leereeves wrote: post #157
nerdjon wrote: post #53

I have to wonder how much of this is people switching to Linux vs the larger trend of people not having traditional computers to begin with. Outside of gamers, I don't know anyone that has a computer at home that is not their work laptop if they have one. At least in my circle everyone I know has moved to their general computing being on phones and tablets which is not captured here. So is a solid chunk of this the p…

How many of the Linux desktops counted here are Steam Decks? The stats come from website trackers - do people browse the web on Steam Decks?

I do. It's a device that is often hooked up to my TV so it becomes the shared device for watching things like Youtube.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by scarface_74 »

jabroni_salad wrote: post #374
scarface_74 wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had my first personal computer in 1986. But I can easily do all of those things just as conveniently on my phone. 90% of tax payers claim the standard deduction. That means filing your taxes just means going to Turbo tax and it importing your W2’s automatically if your employer uses one of the major payment providers like ADP or worse case taking a picture of your W2, clicking “Next” a few times after answering a f…

Personally if I am going to spend more than $100 I am going to comparison shop and I like having multiple windows open to do it in. Opening a specific airline's app and just getting whatever they have on offer is completely foreign to me. I would think I am getting cheated. Also, federal taxes may be easy but the only way to free-file the state tax is to do it directly with the state and that means filling out a form…

I just mentioned in another comment, we travel a lot

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44583545

We don’t comparison shop. Domestically flights on Delta, hotels are either Hyatt or Hilton brand hotels. Internationally? Most Delta partners (AirFrance, Virgin Airways) or Delta itself.

For Hilton, we get points directly and can transfer from Amex (rarely worth it). For Hyatt, points are more valuable and it’s easy to get points from Chase credit cards (r/churning) that can be transferred to Hyatt (saves us thousands a dollars a year sometimes).

On Delta, we have lounge access, 2 free checked bags, free regional (domestic, north and Central America) flight upgrades, priority check in, etc.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by generic92034 »

esseph wrote: post #370
dmd wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly everyone in our family’s (public, Massachusetts) high school writes papers exclusively on their phone.

In highschool classes forever ago we had to write 20+ page papers. I can't imagine trying to do that on a phone!

These days might be gone, with the availability of LLMs now. You only need to prompt a bit, then it is all copy and paste. I have no idea if the students are learning a whole lot this way, though.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by udev4096 »

conradev wrote: post #387
jchw wrote: post #294

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That's not even true. You can use typical Linux software inside of a chroot, like with Termux.

Yep, and in the reverse, you don't need a separate kernel to run Android software on Linux: https://waydro.id

Waydroid is garbage. It's so bad. Better use redroid: https://github.com/remote-android/redroid-doc

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by [deleted] »

zozbot234 wrote: post #418
charcircuit wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it dynamically downloads the programs using apt-get. And then runs them as the Termux app. I didn't mean to imply that it put all of the apps into itself at build time. >Android app for each binary is difficult to work with. You could group multiple binaries that belong to a single conceptual app into a single android app. What do you think would make it difficult to work with? I think most of it could be automated…

The principled way of doing this (while coping with the new post-Pie restrictions) would be to build a new "updated" .apk on-device with a new /usr/bin/ equivalent, then have the user explicitly "install" it and relaunch Termux. It would work no different than any live-CD install, or for that matter any other kind of "immutable" OS.

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Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by School-Cotton »

resource_waste wrote: post #139
School-Cotton wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fedora is actually older than Ubuntu. And FWIW you still can’t paste with C-v in the terminal.

When we say outdated, we mean the version of the kernel and other software. Not the first time it came out. When referring to the terminal, these are 1 time events every 12 months. Its not really a huge deal on Fedora because you basically don't need the terminal. On Ubuntu, its a much bigger deal given how many things are broken and need to be repaired.

I’be had some machines with issues on fedora and no issues on Ubuntu, and vice versa. It really just depends on your hardware and on what you’re trying to do.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by theandrewbailey »

RALaBarge wrote: post #191
theandrewbailey wrote: post #3

I work in the refurb division of an e-waste recycling company. Due to licensing costs and our certifications, we can't sell anything with Windows. My coworkers install Ubuntu, but I install Linux Mint. We don't have any clue if people keep using Linux or install Windows, but it's cool to think we're helping to move this needle. Edit: might as well link to the merch: https://www.ebay.com/str/evolutionecycling

Hey, that seems like a cool gig

It is! If my supervisor didn't kick everyone out at 5 and lock the place, I'd probably work all night everynight nerding out over everything in there.

Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA

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Post by udev4096 »

fsflover wrote: post #163
palata wrote: post #141

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I would still count it as the Linux kernel. They don't change the syscall API, it's really mostly at the BSP level, right? Said differently: if manufacturers cared to mainstream their changes, they could. And we would all be better for it.

> I would still count it as the Linux kernel. This may be technically true, except it has no single meaningful implication, like no Linux software works there.

This is the reason I hate the recent surge in linux desktop users. People jumping in without allocating enough time to get familiar with the ecosystem
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