I really liked the recent picture of Linus Torvalds and Bill gets, hard to believe that after all these years of “competition,” they had never actually met before. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1lh34ox/linus_torval...
Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA
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Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA
#132My perspective is that the Steam Deck significantly contributes to this increase.
Additionally, a smaller factor could be the growing trend of Dev and Op professionals moving from Macs to Linux. And the trend before, to move from Windows to Mac's because they are cheaper to administrate. This shift is supported by manufacturers like Dell and Lenovo, who are providing more devices with Linux pre-installed, aligning well with the supply chain requirements of IT departments.
Also, at least for me, it's hard to envision vendors specialising in Linux desktop hardware, such as Tuxedo, Framework, and System76, experiencing a surge in their market shares. I am very curious to see their numbers and the kind of people and companies that buy this products.
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#133I can't think of any logical reason to exclude ChromeOS and count it separately,and a good portion of the "Unknown" category may as well be Linux. The "real" number shouldn't be far from 10%, if not already exceeding it.
I think Fedora should be taken out too. Fedora stands alone and shouldn't be lumped in with the rest of the LinuxOS.
Fedora going up is a sign of progress. Regular Linux going up is just a sign that Windows sucks.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with your points, except this: > thanks to the Steam Deck [...] but I would be reluctant to call that Linux Desktop anymore than I would call Android an uptick for Linux. The Steam Deck very much runs Linux Desktop. Android runs the Linux kernel, but everything else is different. SteamOS is a Linux distribution based on Arch. If you run your Steam Deck in "desktop mode", it is very much a Linux Desktop (with…
> The Steam Deck very much runs Linux Desktop. Android runs the Linux kernel, but everything else is different. Linux is a kernel.
Which is exactly why people here talk about "Linux Desktop". Linux is a kernel, Linux Desktop is some flavour of a full OS made to run on a PC, as opposed to e.g. embedded Linux or a Linux server.
Not sure what your point is?
Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA
#136Yay PewDiePie
Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA
#137Linux will be stuck in the 5% range as long as people who love Linux are the ones making Linux. You still cannot crtl+V in the terminal. No faster way to scare off users than give them a CLI heavy OS and have the trip over the very first copy+paste command they try to run (once they figure out the circa ~1982 cursor) I really cannot say enough about the total fumble of Linux distros in an age when people are more des…
Ctrl-C means something different in the terminal. Always has been. And if it doesn't make sense to use Ctrl-C, there is no sense in Ctrl-V either.
Windows lets you Ctrl-V while still mapping Ctrl-C to break.
Re: Linux Reaches 5% Desktop Market Share in USA
#138For me, Linux became a viable desktop OS when Steve Jobs killed flash and browsers could render any page independently of the OS. Then Office 365 came around and I could do quick work w/out a windows machine.
FWIW you could install Flash on Linux. It was sometimes a pain but it did work.
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
I imagine you have only used Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/outdated linux. Fedora is a different level completely. With Fedora, I remember installing nvidia drivers via terminal, and that was essentially it. Sometimes I open up ports for my kid doing minecraft, but that was it. Its not like when you use Ubuntu or Mint and you need to manually update something just to get Netflix to work on Chromium. Fedora is so good, I won't c…
Fedora is actually older than Ubuntu. And FWIW you still can’t paste with C-v in the terminal.
When we say outdated, we mean the version of the kernel and other software. Not the first time it came out.
When referring to the terminal, these are 1 time events every 12 months. Its not really a huge deal on Fedora because you basically don't need the terminal. On Ubuntu, its a much bigger deal given how many things are broken and need to be repaired.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with your points, except this: > thanks to the Steam Deck [...] but I would be reluctant to call that Linux Desktop anymore than I would call Android an uptick for Linux. The Steam Deck very much runs Linux Desktop. Android runs the Linux kernel, but everything else is different. SteamOS is a Linux distribution based on Arch. If you run your Steam Deck in "desktop mode", it is very much a Linux Desktop (with…
> The Steam Deck very much runs Linux Desktop. Android runs the Linux kernel, but everything else is different. Linux is a kernel.
A distinction without a difference. The point of this subthread is that the term Linux is overloaded to mean two things: a kernel and also an OS that has certain assumptions (usually glibc and some unix userspace stuff).
The point being that “Linux Desktop” means something more than “runs the Linux kernel”.