Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
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Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#2Working for a company in Germany which is planing production 3 months in advance using printed Excel sheets. The migration of ERP system gone wrong and nobody knows how to fix it. Production management tries to hide this fact and does not talk to the engineering department. This will go for years, consultants will gather their fees for non functional system. Obviously IT infrastructure is not needed for manufacturing. It is just nice to have.
Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#3Working for a company in Germany which is planing production 3 months in advance using printed Excel sheets. The migration of ERP system gone wrong and nobody knows how to fix it. Production management tries to hide this fact and does not talk to the engineering department. This will go for years, consultants will gather their fees for non functional system. Obviously IT infrastructure is not needed for manufacturing…
It depends how resilient they are. People often put all their eggs in one basket.
Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#4>Ukrainian cyber activists, in cooperation with military intelligence...
So the foreign intelligence services gave them a button push so it's not a direct cyber war on Russia.
Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#5I remember Steve Gibson saying some years back that the only reason USA doesn't (cyber-)'attack' Russia's train infra is the inability to 'hide the traces' of the attack, and it would be 'easily' attributed/mapped back to the USA causing (political) issues. Well, Ukraine doesn't have 'that' challenge.
On the other hand (and I'm not defending a drone company), anyone that has a business should know by now that ransomware (with our without deletion) is a real thing, and it's not an 'if' question, it's a 'when' question.
I have never worked with/for a Russian company, so it would be interesting to hear/read from someone who has, how 'well organized' are they? GRC-wise. Assuming that someone would run the COBIT framework on them (Russian companies), would the 'average' be 'ok' or it's a big mess (kinda like working for an EU company in early 00's)?
Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#6>Ukrainian cyber activists, in cooperation with military intelligence... So the foreign intelligence services gave them a button push so it's not a direct cyber war on Russia.
Likely. But also could have been some thugs with a wrench in a basement and the sys admin giving up the ssh keys and 2fa etc.
Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#7>Ukrainian cyber activists, in cooperation with military intelligence... So the foreign intelligence services gave them a button push so it's not a direct cyber war on Russia.
Tomato, tomato. There is a war according to one side so the reasoning is mute, i'd argue the reason is it is easier to recruit the correct people if they do not work directly for the military than this distinction.
Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#8>Ukrainian cyber activists, in cooperation with military intelligence... So the foreign intelligence services gave them a button push so it's not a direct cyber war on Russia.
It doesn't say anything about foreign intelligence services
Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#9While this is a move that will hinder production for a while I'd say maybe they should have been more creative
They should have checked the source codes and added some changes to make drones unpredictably unreliable
"Oh this totally innocent code change? Oh look it makes the gps act weird if longitude is between a certain range how weird"
Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer
#10Working for a company in Germany which is planing production 3 months in advance using printed Excel sheets. The migration of ERP system gone wrong and nobody knows how to fix it. Production management tries to hide this fact and does not talk to the engineering department. This will go for years, consultants will gather their fees for non functional system. Obviously IT infrastructure is not needed for manufacturing…
It depends how resilient they are. People often put all their eggs in one basket.
Russia has shown to be plenty resilient across the board. I find it hard to assume anything different here.