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I'm switching to Python and actually liking it

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Re: I'm switching to Python and actually liking it

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Post by messe »

> the Python interpreter is natively integrated in all Unix distros

It's included in the default install of most desktop/server Linux distros (with plenty of exceptions), but I don't believe any of the BSDs ship it in their base system.

IIRC macOS used to have python 2 in its default install, but I vaguely recall that being deprecated and removed at some point. My only Mac is on the other side of the country at the moment, so I can't check myself.

Re: I'm switching to Python and actually liking it

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Post by blitzar »

messe wrote: post #2

> the Python interpreter is natively integrated in all Unix distros It's included in the default install of most desktop/server Linux distros (with plenty of exceptions), but I don't believe any of the BSDs ship it in their base system. IIRC macOS used to have python 2 in its default install, but I vaguely recall that being deprecated and removed at some point. My only Mac is on the other side of the country at the m…

I dont think python is pre-installed on macOS now. (uv has replaced it for me)

Edit: Unlike older versions of macOS that came with Python 2.7 pre-installed, newer macOS versions (Catalina and later) no longer include Python pre-installed.

Re: I'm switching to Python and actually liking it

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Post by reedf1 »

> Python has done a good job of hiding its legacy ugliness (such as __init__, __new__, and similar aberrations), swettening its syntax to accomodate developers with good taste.

What exactly is the problem with __init__ or __new__? @dataclass is very nice syntactic sugar, but are we arguing here that having access to initializer/allocator/constructor dunder methods is "legacy ugliness"? This is the core of pythonic built-in aware python. Bizarre.

Re: I'm switching to Python and actually liking it

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

blitzar wrote: post #3
messe wrote: post #2

> the Python interpreter is natively integrated in all Unix distros It's included in the default install of most desktop/server Linux distros (with plenty of exceptions), but I don't believe any of the BSDs ship it in their base system. IIRC macOS used to have python 2 in its default install, but I vaguely recall that being deprecated and removed at some point. My only Mac is on the other side of the country at the m…

I dont think python is pre-installed on macOS now. (uv has replaced it for me) Edit: Unlike older versions of macOS that came with Python 2.7 pre-installed, newer macOS versions (Catalina and later) no longer include Python pre-installed.

macOS dropped PHP recently too—doing a wonderful job of losing all that developer share that Apple was slowly building up.
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