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What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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post #175

Homer Simpson is a bumbling incompetent who manages to have a stable job, and can afford a mortgage, insurance for his family of 5, and two good enough cars as the sole breadwinner for his household. It's going to take something like that.

How does this square with the fact that fertility declines as income rises, both within and across societies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

#192
post #154

I have two teenagers and they are wonderful. But the world is NOT the same anymore. In the current moment, I would really think twice before bringing any more kids into this world. I feel sorry for everyone coming of age at this time. The world got very bad very quickly. There's no jobs, no one can afford a house, healthcare, or retirement, and the climate is toast.

Of the 110 billion people to have ever been born, maybe 2 billion have been born into more comfortable circumstances than the median child born in the United States today.

Were those children born to brave parents who made a choice to selflessly sacrifice to do their societal duty, or could it be that having sex is fun and only relatively recently have we managed to figure out how to do it without risking pregnancy? Given individual choice, would we have such a large population to begin with?

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

#193

Relative stability, focus on family, growth, men as head of household, minimal single parent families, women spending time with their kids. Raising kids is a full time job. I am doing both as a father and also as a founder. My wife does not work, does minimal contribution here and there. I dont know where she spends time but she is unavailable. I would rather do it myself than keep fighting. I think from population f…

> Relative stability, focus on family, growth, men as head of household, minimal single parent families, women spending time with their kids.

This reads as deeply obnoxious sexism. Man as head of the household, sounds like religious fundamentalism.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

#195
post #161

My $0.02 is being a mom sucks. In modern relationships, men just want to work and come home to a cooked meal and clean house, but their wives are working just as many hours the men are. Having kids means tension in relationship, unpaid labor by the woman, and stress parenting kids. Even if the husband steps up, he still can't breast feed for 3 hours per day. Pregnancy is really terrible on the woman's body. Post-part…

Not convinced that this is down to women. In my personal experience women want to have kids wayyyy more than men it is the men who are refusing them or want to delay. In fact I would say this is basically everyone I know, the men are the ones being anti-natal while women want kids way earlier.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

#196
post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People have been having babies in all sorts of adversity for all of history But they didn't know how screwed they were.

I think literal chattel slaves knew they were pretty bad off but they still had kids. (If you implied sarcasm I apologize, it's extremely hard to tell when dealing with HN posters)

I encourage you to do some research about this. I did and I wish I had not.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When I see a family of 5 my first thought is "holy fuck they must be loaded. This is an interesting divide between social media reality of children and the real world. Any parent will recognize that having 5 kids does not mean paying 5X the cost of infant daycare, which is obvious when you think about it. Infant daycare is expensive but it's also temporary. It's also fascinating that so many people assume daycare i…

My $0.02 is being a mom sucks. In modern relationships, men just want to work and come home to a cooked meal and clean house, but their wives are working just as many hours the men are. Having kids means tension in relationship, unpaid labor by the woman, and stress parenting kids. Even if the husband steps up, he still can't breast feed for 3 hours per day. Pregnancy is really terrible on the woman's body. Post-part…

You've just reposted this again

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

#198
post #175

Homer Simpson is a bumbling incompetent who manages to have a stable job, and can afford a mortgage, insurance for his family of 5, and two good enough cars as the sole breadwinner for his household. It's going to take something like that.

How does this square with the fact that fertility declines as income rises, both within and across societies? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility

Because income rises with age, and fertility declines with age. Not that hard to figure out.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

#199
Worrying about declining birth rates on Earth in 2025 is exactly as psychotic as dinosaurs worrying about their investment portfolios the day after Chicxulub.

Someone said "more meat for the grinder", which is exactly correct whether it is referring to a war machine or the late-stage capitalist shithole we've created.

You're all absolutely crazy if you think more fscking people on this finite planet is going to solve any problem.

Get sterilized.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

#200

I have two teenagers and they are wonderful. But the world is NOT the same anymore. In the current moment, I would really think twice before bringing any more kids into this world. I feel sorry for everyone coming of age at this time. The world got very bad very quickly. There's no jobs, no one can afford a house, healthcare, or retirement, and the climate is toast.

The world is amazing and AC exists.

But the idiopathic depression of the modern era is certainly interesting. Doubtful it can be studied before natural selection exacts its ruthless revenge

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