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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by nsonha » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 3:09 PM UTC

placardloop wrote: post #134

theturtletalks wrote: post #67

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Seems like Amazon started making this when Cursor was hot in the market, but now that CLI agents like Claude Code are taking over, Kiro will have an uphill battle. It’s also not free or unlimited (though throttled) like Cursor and Claude Code using max plan.

Which is kind of ironic since the Amazon Q Developer CLI (which is essentially Claude Code with a slightly different wrapper) was released long before Claude Code and seems to mostly be flying under the radar.

Claude Code is what it is because of Claude, TUI or not isn't really the point. What makes IDEs lose to TUIs is that the agentic models can really do more than coding and is evolving toward a hands-off kind of workflow. A clunky IDE is too much for that, but TUI is not the way either. When has TUI ever been mainstream?

Agentic tools of the future will be rich notebook/chat interface that's available in all form factors, which is to say, most likely web/cross platform apps.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by harryf » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 3:11 PM UTC

UrineSqueegee wrote: post #416

do i have to run each task manually in the tasks.md? can i not leave it unsupervised? i also need to individually approve each command for some reason and then if it fails due to a service high load i need to manually restart all over again the same task.

> fails due to a service high load

It seems to be suffering the HN effect right now. Earlier it was working nicely and pretty much doing everything in the background

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by efitz » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 3:12 PM UTC

apwell23 wrote: post #318

postalcoder wrote: post #41

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I don't know if this is feedback for Kiro per se or more feedback for this category of applications as a whole, but I've personally noticed that the biggest barrier holding me back from giving an earnest look at new coding agents are the custom rules I've set up w/ my existing agents. I have extensively used Copilot, Continue, Cursor, Cline, Aider, Roo Code, and Claude Code. I've just finished porting my rules over t…

> have an llm agent transform them into a format that works better for the agent. you can do this today though.

AFAICT there is no “format” to agent rule files; it’s just text describing how you’d like the LLM to behave. Typically I’ve seen bullet lists.

Some agents have multiple prompts that are used for different modes; I’ve typically seen this stored as JSON that is agent specific and wouldn’t necessarily apply to different agents.

The only agent specific thing I’ve ever included in a context file is referring to a specific tool. I probably could have abstracted that by describing it as “the tool that does X” or by just telling it to do the function that the tool does.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by tmvphil » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 3:45 PM UTC

smcleod wrote: post #234

didibus wrote: post #169

For anyone wondering, Amazon already offers an Agentic coding CLI similar to Claude Code: https://github.com/aws/amazon-q-developer-cli It has a pretty decent free tier, and maybe the subscription is better value than Claude Code, but hard to tell. It supports MCP as well. Amazon Q also has a VC Code and IntelliJ Idea plugin too, Kiro goes beyond what you can do as a plugin in VS Code though, similar to why Cursor ha…

Q CLI has so many issues though, injects so much junk into you shell profiles it can slow down your terminal invocations by seconds, and it doesn't support standard streamableHttp / SSE MCP servers.

I turn that stuff off and just use `q chat` for everything, which actually works very well in my experience.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by nsonha » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 3:47 PM UTC

efitz wrote: post #412

nsonha wrote: post #328

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and opencode

and cline (.clinerules)

I mean opencode reads AGENTS.md

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by stuaxo » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 3:56 PM UTC

Vscode again.

If MS didn't have their weird semi closed ecosystem for Vscode this would be in Vscode proper.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by hu3 » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 4:34 PM UTC

conartist6 wrote: post #293

Important: it's another fork of VSCode. I thought AI was ushering in the age of innovation so why is the only innovation anyone seems capable of copying something that already exists...? In all actuality, AI seems to be ushering out the age of innovation since people now consider it foolish to spend their time trying to innovate instead of clone

I believe most projects use VSCode because it is hard to build a cross platform code editor with plugin system.

And if you're going to copy, might as well be the most popular editor to reduce user friction.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by jsskarthik » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 4:44 PM UTC

NathanKP wrote: post #69

darkwater wrote: post #20

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Hello! What is the connection with AWS? Do you work for AWS? Is this going to be some official AWS product, backed by Amazon Q or Bedrock?

Kiro is created by an AWS team, and originates from AWS expertise. We are using Kiro internally as one of our recommended tools for development within AWS (and Amazon). So Kiro is an official AWS product, however, we are also keeping it slightly separated from the rest of core AWS. For example, you can use Kiro without having any AWS account at all. Kiro has social login through Google and GitHub. Basically, Kiro is…

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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by lucasfdacunha » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 4:56 PM UTC

It seems that it doesn't work with WSL 2 yet. Any plans to support it?

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by yencabulator » Tue, Jul 15, 2025, 5:15 PM UTC

nsonha wrote: post #421

placardloop wrote: post #134

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Which is kind of ironic since the Amazon Q Developer CLI (which is essentially Claude Code with a slightly different wrapper) was released long before Claude Code and seems to mostly be flying under the radar.

Claude Code is what it is because of Claude, TUI or not isn't really the point. What makes IDEs lose to TUIs is that the agentic models can really do more than coding and is evolving toward a hands-off kind of workflow. A clunky IDE is too much for that, but TUI is not the way either. When has TUI ever been mainstream? Agentic tools of the future will be rich notebook/chat interface that's available in all form facto…

You can have an agent loop in your IDE, I don't see why anything makes "IDEs lose to TUIs" there.

If anything, TUIs are the awkward in-between of "human in the loop, but with poor tools" where one side is fully automatic, agents suggesting fixes on issue tracker, and the other is holding-AI's-hand where you review every step one at a time.

I hate trying to copy paste in/out of Claude Code's unnecessarily-cute boxed text input.

Zed's implementation of the agent feedback loop isn't yet as good as Claude Code, but there's nothing inherently IDE-related in the parts that are lacking.

https://zed.dev/docs/ai/agent-panel