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Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by bombcar »

Containerization (either the docker stuff or the literal 40 foot steel boxes) was a huge revolution in their respective industries.

There was a ton of work and howling and news about them for years, decades.

Now they’re so boring and standard that they’re just table stakes. Nobody cares about them enough to get into long discussions about them.

The same in a best case will happen with LLMs - the things they can do will become boring and assumed, and people will eventually stop trying to make them do things they can’t.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by simpaticoder »

simonw wrote: post #32

I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…

An interesting example of both LLMs' strengths and weaknesses. It is strong because you wrote a useful tool in a few minutes. It is weak because this tool is strongly coupled to the problem: filtering HN. It's an example of the more general problem of people wanting to control what they see. This has existed at least since the classic usenet "killfiles", but is an area that, I believe, has been ripe for a comprehensive local solution for some time.

OTOH, narrow solutions validate the broader solution, especially if there are a lot of them. Although in that case you invite a ton of "momentum" issues with ingrained user bases (and heated advocacy), hopelessly incompatible data models and/or UX models, and so on. It's an interesting world (in the Chinese curse sense) where such tools can be trivially created. It's not clear to me that fitness selection will work to clean up the landscape once it's made.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by Lerc »

pydry wrote: post #51
Lerc wrote: post #27

I have seen this question asked on subreddits, Not about AI, but for other topics that some people dislike. They always seem to take the form of "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" Invariably the person who proposes this wants to remain in group A and will not be a participant in group B. To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are…

It's about a topic not the people.

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by raincole »

fouronnes3 wrote: post #52
simonw wrote: post #32

I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…

Great example of the power of vibe coding. The first item is literally "Kiro: A new agentic IDE".

There is literally an input box to put terms you want to exclude...

The prompt asks for "filters out specific search terms", not "intelligently filter out any AI-related keywords." So yes, a good example of the power of vibe coding: the LLM built a tool according to the prompt.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

Lerc wrote: post #27

I have seen this question asked on subreddits, Not about AI, but for other topics that some people dislike. They always seem to take the form of "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" Invariably the person who proposes this wants to remain in group A and will not be a participant in group B. To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are…

> I have seen this question asked on subreddits, "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are not welcome here"

I don't disagree with this observation about Reddit. However, I feel HN readers are more topic-oriented. Folks really do come to HN to read the articles and then maybe get drawn into a discussion.

I grant there are some topics here that tend to be more engagement driven but on balance I think the above holds.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by sdf4j »

pydry wrote: post #51
Lerc wrote: post #27

I have seen this question asked on subreddits, Not about AI, but for other topics that some people dislike. They always seem to take the form of "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" Invariably the person who proposes this wants to remain in group A and will not be a participant in group B. To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are…

It's about a topic not the people.

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by merelysounds »

Not sure if this would be practical - AI seems to be part of the startup ecosystem now.

I guess people still use HN to discover things that they never otherwise would have come across, just that it now also includes AI, for better or worse.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Post by waffletower »

bestouff wrote: post #33
danbruc wrote: post #13

No, will go away just like all the crypto stuff - remember that time? - went away.

But but the Rust stuff is still there ! (To my pleasure I must confess)

Could we have a fork where people talk about Rust somewhere else ;)
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