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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by Szpadel »

NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

why it required forking vscode? what prevents this from being just extension? from article I do not see any obvious functionality that would prevent such implementation

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by potamic »

qwertox wrote: post #251

Is this an Amazon product? When I click on "Legal" at the bottom of the page, I'm sent to AWS. The docs state at https://kiro.dev/docs/reference/privacy-and-security/#servic... that "Kiro is an AWS application that works as a standalone agentic IDE." But nowhere on the landing page or other pages it states that this is an Amazon product. What is going on? Edit: I see that @nathanpeck is the "author" and he works for…

I didn't realize either until I saw this comment. The tone of the blog post also felt like it was coming from an individual rather than an organisation, which is not typical of Amazon. I don't know if this was a recent acquisition, otherwise diverting from your primary brand is strange. Unless they feel an association with Amazon would only be negative.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by dcreater »

yakattak wrote: post #200
suralind wrote: post #12

Here my problem with this: I don't want to be jumping an editor/IDE every 6 months, learning new key bindings and even more importantly, getting used to a completely new look. In a space that moves as quickly as "AI" does, it is inevitable that a better and cheaper solution will pop up at some point. We kinda already see it with Cursor and Windsurf. I guess Claude Code is all the rage now and I personally think CLI/T…

All of these agentic IDEs could just be visual studio code plugins. They’re likely not because how do you secure VC funding for a plugin?

But Continue and a bunch of others literally did that.

The better question is why is there this horrible monoculture in SW startups around raising money through VCs? We need more regular businesses who build something useful and charge a fair price. Period.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by qwertox »

seunosewa wrote: post #298
qwertox wrote: post #251

Is this an Amazon product? When I click on "Legal" at the bottom of the page, I'm sent to AWS. The docs state at https://kiro.dev/docs/reference/privacy-and-security/#servic... that "Kiro is an AWS application that works as a standalone agentic IDE." But nowhere on the landing page or other pages it states that this is an Amazon product. What is going on? Edit: I see that @nathanpeck is the "author" and he works for…

Isn't AWS Amazon Web Services??

Yes, why are you asking?

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by zorrolovsky »

Very impressed. As a programming impostor (never formally trained, and not working as programmer) I find the program 1) helped me to understand the basics of a full blown IDE dev cycle end to end 2) helped me to refine an app on the making. Perhaps the one thing that surprised me vs standard Claude is that it didn't ask me about the tech stack to build my app. It went nuclear with a complex react-based stack when my app's needs are less demanding (a simple html+css+js could do it)

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by pmontra »

m0llusk wrote: post #312
srhngpr wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To opt out of sharing your telemetry data in Kiro, use this procedure: 1. Open Settings in Kiro. 2. Switch to the User sub-tab. 3. Choose Application, and from the drop-down choose Telemetry and Content. 4. In the Telemetry and Content drop-down field, select Disabled to disable all product telemetry and user data collection. source: https://kiro.dev/docs/reference/privacy-and-security/#opt-ou...

Is there a way to confirm this works or do we just have to trust that settings will be honored?

As for everything else: trust, possibly enhanced by the fear of consequences for the other party.

How do we know if random internet service sells our email / password pair? They probably store the hashed password because it's easier (libraries) than writing their own code, but they get it as cleartext every time we type it in.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by rvz »

haiku2077 wrote: post #268
ryandvm wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno. There's also a good chance that you just end up being left behind like graybeards that only wanted to code in C and assembler. I too am old enough to have seen a lot of unnecessary tech change cycles, and one thing I've noticed about this industry is no matter how foolish a trend was, we almost never unwind it.

> I dunno. There's also a good chance that you just end up being left behind like graybeards that only wanted to code in C and assembler. All the people I know in the US with those skills make huge amounts of money- at least, the ones who haven't already retired rich.

Yes. The ones who maintain high risk system software that allows all these machines to be able to train LLMs, compile the systems software or maintaining systems that ingest 2% of the worlds traffic are the ones who are making a lot of money out of this.

Not the ones maintaining frontend web apps or "vibe coding".

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by nicewood »

lukev wrote: post #275
consumer451 wrote: post #209

Important details from the FAQ, emphasis mine: > For users who access Kiro with Pro or Pro+ tiers once they are available, your content is not used to train any underlying foundation models (FMs). AWS might collect and use client-side telemetry and usage metrics for service improvement purposes. You can opt out of this data collection by adjusting your settings in the IDE. For the Kiro Free tier and during preview, y…

This brings up a tangential question for me. Clearly, companies view the context fed to these tools as valuable. And it certainly has value in the abstract, as information about how they're being used or could be improved. But is it really useful as training data? Sure, some new codebases might be fed in... but after that, the way context works and the way people are "vibe coding", 95% of the novelty being input is j…

I think it's less about the code output, but about the process of humans iterating and adjusting the LLM-drafted requirements and design. Claude Code et al. are good enough, the bottleneck is IMO usually the context and prompt by now. So further improving that by optimizing for and collecting data about the human interaction seems like a good strategy to me.

Essentially, the user labels (accept/edit) data (design documents) for the agent (amazon)

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