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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by Zopieux »

tln wrote: post #278
newman314 wrote: post #244

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It would sure be nice to have some standardized conventions around this. AGENTS.md etc. It seems insane to have to have multiple files/rules for essentially the same goals just for different tools.

Thats the convention I am using. My CLAUDE.md and GEMINI.md both just say "See AGENTS.md".

Have you heard about symlinks yet?

The idea of having a bunch of A100 GPU cycles needed to process the natural language equivalent of a file pointer makes me deeply sad about the current state of software development.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by a1j9o94 »

apwell23 wrote: post #313
NathanKP wrote: post #311

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False. In order to maintain high quality I often rejected the first result and regenerated the code with a more precise prompt, rather than taking the first result. I also regularly used "refactor prompts" to ask Kiro to change the code to match my high expectations. Just because you use AI does not mean that you need to be careless about quality, nor is AI an excuse to turn off your brain and just hit accept on the…

> precise prompt If there was such a thing you would just check in your prompts into your repo and CI would build your final application from prompts and deploy it. So it follows that if you are accepting 95% of what random output is being given to you. you are either doing something really mundane and straightforward or you don't care much about the shape of the output ( not to be confused with quality) . Like in th…

The above is saying more precise not completely precise. The overall point they're making is you still are responsible for the code you commit.

If they are saying the code in this project was in line with what they would have written, I lean towards trusting their assessment.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by didibus »

smcleod wrote: post #234
didibus wrote: post #169

For anyone wondering, Amazon already offers an Agentic coding CLI similar to Claude Code: https://github.com/aws/amazon-q-developer-cli It has a pretty decent free tier, and maybe the subscription is better value than Claude Code, but hard to tell. It supports MCP as well. Amazon Q also has a VC Code and IntelliJ Idea plugin too, Kiro goes beyond what you can do as a plugin in VS Code though, similar to why Cursor ha…

Q CLI has so many issues though, injects so much junk into you shell profiles it can slow down your terminal invocations by seconds, and it doesn't support standard streamableHttp / SSE MCP servers.

That's for the shell auto-complete feature which I turn off.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by didibus »

nwienert wrote: post #260
didibus wrote: post #183

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I feel what you say is true only for auto-complete, which is no longer the ideal workflow for agentic coding. Otherwise the IDE doesn't know what it should include or not in the context, and you need an AI model to determine that. What people do to avoid what you discussed, is multi-agents. The main agent can build up context, plan, than delegate execution to other agents, etc. In my opinion, the benefit of the IDE i…

It’s so much easier for me to prompt by: - cmd-t fuzzy finding files of cmd-p finding symbols to open the various files that are relevant - selecting a few lines in each file using fast IDE shortcuts to move and add - drag and drop an image or other json files into prompt - not leave the editor im already working on Not to mention: - viewing the agents edits as a diff in the editor and all the benefits of easily swit…

To each their own, and I absolutely agree with the prior poster about both existing making a lot of sense. It comes down to personal preference. I just wanted to point out the CLI has no less support for feature and context, just a different UX to them.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by lxgr »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #21
suralind wrote: post #12

Here my problem with this: I don't want to be jumping an editor/IDE every 6 months, learning new key bindings and even more importantly, getting used to a completely new look. In a space that moves as quickly as "AI" does, it is inevitable that a better and cheaper solution will pop up at some point. We kinda already see it with Cursor and Windsurf. I guess Claude Code is all the rage now and I personally think CLI/T…

They're all based vscode, so the switching costs are fairly minimal? It'll get worse over time as they diverge, but at the moment they're all fairly similar AFAICT. It's starting to become noticeable that Cursor isn't picking up VSCode enhancements and fixes, but it's still quite minor.

Them all being based on VS Code makes it all the more frustrating to have to switch IDEs to use them.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by recursivecaveat »

lukev wrote: post #275
consumer451 wrote: post #209

Important details from the FAQ, emphasis mine: > For users who access Kiro with Pro or Pro+ tiers once they are available, your content is not used to train any underlying foundation models (FMs). AWS might collect and use client-side telemetry and usage metrics for service improvement purposes. You can opt out of this data collection by adjusting your settings in the IDE. For the Kiro Free tier and during preview, y…

This brings up a tangential question for me. Clearly, companies view the context fed to these tools as valuable. And it certainly has value in the abstract, as information about how they're being used or could be improved. But is it really useful as training data? Sure, some new codebases might be fed in... but after that, the way context works and the way people are "vibe coding", 95% of the novelty being input is j…

The human/computer interaction is probably more valuable than any code they could slurp up. Its basically CCTV of people using your product and live-correcting it, in a format you can feed back into the thing to tell it to improve. Maybe one day they will even learn to stop disabling tests to get them to pass.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by nsonha »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #165
theusus wrote: post #121

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Why build an editor and not a CLI. VS code is really slow for me and I would have preferred a CLI.

There are still people not even using an editor, but rather using vibe-coding apps like lovable. Also,I don't mean to be rude to cursor but the fact that they are literally just a vscode wrapper still, to this day makes me really crazy thinking that the value of an AI editor could be so high.. I think it was the lack of competition really, Cursor (IMO) always felt like the biggest player, I think there was continue.d…

> just a vscode wrapper

Isn't that like all software. Before Claude 4 and Copilot agent mode, Cursor/Cline did a lot of work under the hood to achieve the same agentic capabilities, that stuff has nothing to do with VSCode.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by lightbendover »

rob wrote: post #102
theturtletalks wrote: post #67

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Seems like Amazon started making this when Cursor was hot in the market, but now that CLI agents like Claude Code are taking over, Kiro will have an uphill battle. It’s also not free or unlimited (though throttled) like Cursor and Claude Code using max plan.

I think IDE-based tools like Cursor, VS Code, etc, will win out in the long term, especially as the younger generation grows up. In the short term though, I think CLI-based tools like Claude Code are taking off because hardcore developers see them as the last "vestige" they have in separating themselves from the "noobs." They know there's still a good portion of the public who don't know how to use the terminal, inst…

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