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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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blibble wrote: post #206
NathanKP wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stay tuned! I think there is definitely room for a CLI version as well. That said, IDE's have a significant advantage over CLI because of the features available to them. For example, the reason why IDE's feel "slow" is often because they just come with more features: automatic linters and code formatters, type checkers, LSP servers. An agent running in the IDE can make use of all this context to provide better result…

> For example, the reason why IDE's feel "slow" is often because they just come with more features: IDEs don't feel slow, they ARE slow because written in HTML and Javascript go and try Delphi from 2005, it's blazing fast (and more functional...)

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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by usef- »

blibble wrote: post #206
NathanKP wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stay tuned! I think there is definitely room for a CLI version as well. That said, IDE's have a significant advantage over CLI because of the features available to them. For example, the reason why IDE's feel "slow" is often because they just come with more features: automatic linters and code formatters, type checkers, LSP servers. An agent running in the IDE can make use of all this context to provide better result…

> For example, the reason why IDE's feel "slow" is often because they just come with more features: IDEs don't feel slow, they ARE slow because written in HTML and Javascript go and try Delphi from 2005, it's blazing fast (and more functional...)

I'm surprised none of them have built on Zed yet

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by conartist6 »

Important: it's another fork of VSCode.

I thought AI was ushering in the age of innovation so why is the only innovation anyone seems capable of copying something that already exists...?

In all actuality, AI seems to be ushering out the age of innovation since people now consider it foolish to spend their time trying to innovate instead of clone

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by umeshunni »

yakattak wrote: post #200
suralind wrote: post #12

Here my problem with this: I don't want to be jumping an editor/IDE every 6 months, learning new key bindings and even more importantly, getting used to a completely new look. In a space that moves as quickly as "AI" does, it is inevitable that a better and cheaper solution will pop up at some point. We kinda already see it with Cursor and Windsurf. I guess Claude Code is all the rage now and I personally think CLI/T…

All of these agentic IDEs could just be visual studio code plugins. They’re likely not because how do you secure VC funding for a plugin?

More importantly - how do you monetize a plugin?

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by consumer451 »

lukev wrote: post #275
consumer451 wrote: post #209

Important details from the FAQ, emphasis mine: > For users who access Kiro with Pro or Pro+ tiers once they are available, your content is not used to train any underlying foundation models (FMs). AWS might collect and use client-side telemetry and usage metrics for service improvement purposes. You can opt out of this data collection by adjusting your settings in the IDE. For the Kiro Free tier and during preview, y…

This brings up a tangential question for me. Clearly, companies view the context fed to these tools as valuable. And it certainly has value in the abstract, as information about how they're being used or could be improved. But is it really useful as training data? Sure, some new codebases might be fed in... but after that, the way context works and the way people are "vibe coding", 95% of the novelty being input is j…

There is company, maybe even a YC company, which I saw posting about wanting to pay people for private repos that died on the vine, and were never released as products. I believe they were asking for pre-2022 code to avoid LLM taint. This was to be used as training data.

This is all a fuzzy memory, I could have multiple details wrong.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by manbash »

> 2. Technical design based on requirements > Kiro then generates a design document by analyzing your codebase and approved spec requirements. It creates data flow diagrams, TypeScript interfaces, database schemas, and API endpoints—like the Review interfaces for our review system. This eliminates the lengthy back-and-forth on requirements clarity that typically slows development.

This is nice for documentation but really having a design document after-the-fact doesn't really help much. Designing is a decision-making process before the code is written.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by seunosewa »

qwertox wrote: post #251

Is this an Amazon product? When I click on "Legal" at the bottom of the page, I'm sent to AWS. The docs state at https://kiro.dev/docs/reference/privacy-and-security/#servic... that "Kiro is an AWS application that works as a standalone agentic IDE." But nowhere on the landing page or other pages it states that this is an Amazon product. What is going on? Edit: I see that @nathanpeck is the "author" and he works for…

Isn't AWS Amazon Web Services??

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by p1necone »

manbash wrote: post #297

> 2. Technical design based on requirements > Kiro then generates a design document by analyzing your codebase and approved spec requirements. It creates data flow diagrams, TypeScript interfaces, database schemas, and API endpoints—like the Review interfaces for our review system. This eliminates the lengthy back-and-forth on requirements clarity that typically slows development. This is nice for documentation but r…

The Eisenhower quote comes to mind: "Plans are worthless, but planning is everything."

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by cgio »

manbash wrote: post #297

> 2. Technical design based on requirements > Kiro then generates a design document by analyzing your codebase and approved spec requirements. It creates data flow diagrams, TypeScript interfaces, database schemas, and API endpoints—like the Review interfaces for our review system. This eliminates the lengthy back-and-forth on requirements clarity that typically slows development. This is nice for documentation but r…

I read it as after requirements and before code. This is how I would expect it to work too. It reads the existing codebase, which also makes sense for non greenfield projects as in the example.
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