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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by NathanKP »

adastra22 wrote: post #235
NathanKP wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the prompt: "I have extensively used Copilot, Continue, Cursor, Cline, Aider, Roo Code, and Claude Code. I do not want to move my files over again for Kiro [even if it's as simple as dragging and dropping files]. Do it for me" Kiro will do it for you automatically.

And then you have two separate specifications of your intent, with the ongoing problems that causes. It’s not the same thing.

Yeah it would be nice if there was one way to specify the rules and intent, but you know how these things go: https://xkcd.com/927/

In all seriousness, I'm sure this will become more standardized over time, in the same way that MCP has standardized tool use.

I've long been interested in something that can gather lightweight rules files from all your subdirectories as well, like a grandparent rule file that inherits and absorbs the rules of children modules that you have imported. Something kind of like this: https://github.com/ash-project/usage_rules

I think over time there will be more and more sources and entities that desire to preemptively provide some lightweight instructive steering content to guide their own use. But in the meantime we just have to deal with the standard proliferation until someone creates something amazing enough to suck everyone else in.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by manojlds »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #30
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #22

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I have a question. I do not like the concept of "agent mode" for AI. I'm a control freak and I want to control every line that gets committed because I am responsible for it and need to understand/visualize/memorize every part of codebases I work on. Is Claude Code good for the "ask" flow? No, right? The old flow before agent mode got added. Select some code, ask questions about it or give an instruction on editing i…

I like aider's solution of encapsulating each edit in a git commit; I hope that gets widely adopted.

Each edit as in every little change?

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by NathanKP »

personjerry wrote: post #198
NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

Why not deploy the game? I'd love to try it

I have a personal deployment of the game, but it costs money to run the LLM so I'm not sharing that with all of Hacker News haha. I've got an appsec ticket open to host an "official AWS" version where AWS pays the LLM bill, but that might take a while longer to get approved. For now the best way to experiment is playing with it locally.

I'm also thinking of creating a fork of the project that is designed to run entirely locally using your GPU. I believe with current quantized models, and a decent GPU, you can have an adequate enough fully local experience with this game, even the dynamic image generation part.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by newman314 »

postalcoder wrote: post #41
NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

I don't know if this is feedback for Kiro per se or more feedback for this category of applications as a whole, but I've personally noticed that the biggest barrier holding me back from giving an earnest look at new coding agents are the custom rules I've set up w/ my existing agents. I have extensively used Copilot, Continue, Cursor, Cline, Aider, Roo Code, and Claude Code. I've just finished porting my rules over t…

It would sure be nice to have some standardized conventions around this. AGENTS.md etc. It seems insane to have to have multiple files/rules for essentially the same goals just for different tools.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by helpfulContrib »

adastra22 wrote: post #235
NathanKP wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the prompt: "I have extensively used Copilot, Continue, Cursor, Cline, Aider, Roo Code, and Claude Code. I do not want to move my files over again for Kiro [even if it's as simple as dragging and dropping files]. Do it for me" Kiro will do it for you automatically.

And then you have two separate specifications of your intent, with the ongoing problems that causes. It’s not the same thing.

Porting rules is one of the responsibilities of keeping them.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by rcleveng »

slacktivism123 wrote: post #128
ActorNightly wrote: post #122

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While I like the product, implementation could be better. Kiro is sitting idle with Helper Plugin using a shitload of CPU for no reason.

Having ten "Electron Helper (Plugin)" eat a GB of RAM each on idle is the premier desktop experience nowadays. We can't have native apps any more: we don't know how to build them.

It's not that people don't know how to build a native application, it's rather a native application that runs across Windows, Mac and Linux is still really hard. Trying to add in a web version of the same application is impossible.

ActiveX and Java Web Start, etc all tried to do this, and all of them ended up deprecated and out of favor for native web solutions.

Java IDEs did a lot of this for many years (Eclipse, IntelliJ, NetBeans, JDeveloper, etc) and they worked reasonably well on the desktop, but had no path to offering a web hosted solution (like gitpod or codespaces)

There are not a lot of options here, compiling down a native solution to wasm and running it in the browser would work, I'm not sure if the performance would be substantially better or more consistent across all OS'es and web unfortunately.

So we are where we are :)

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by ryandvm »

crinkly wrote: post #125
ryandvm wrote: post #99

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I dunno. There's also a good chance that you just end up being left behind like graybeards that only wanted to code in C and assembler. I too am old enough to have seen a lot of unnecessary tech change cycles, and one thing I've noticed about this industry is no matter how foolish a trend was, we almost never unwind it.

I get paid a fuck load of money to write C. Your point is? As for trends, I've been around long enough to have seen this cycle a couple of times...

> I get paid a fuck load of money to write C. Your point is?

My point is there aren't many of you, are there?

All things considered, keeping up with the industry trends is generally a more reliable career path.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by hedgehog »

underlines wrote: post #240
NathanKP wrote: post #211

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Thanks a lot! I plan to fork the project and make a generic version that runs entirely locally using your GPU to do everything. My early tests ran pretty well on NVIDIA 5070. So that's next on my project list to open source in my free time. The only thing more fun that building an AI agent, is using it to build your own ideas!

5070Ti user here: We are 150 people in a SME and most of our projects NDA for gov & defense clients absolutely forbid us to use any cloud based IDE tools like GitHub Copilot etc. Would love for this project to provide a BYOK and even Bring Your Own Inference Endpoint. You can still create licensing terms for business clients.

What models do you use that you've found to be powerful enough to be helpful?

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by moffkalast »

theusus wrote: post #121
NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

Why build an editor and not a CLI. VS code is really slow for me and I would have preferred a CLI.

What kind of toaster are you running vscode on, it runs about as fast as any basic text editor even in VMs for me.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by [deleted] »

NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

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