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Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by NathanKP »

epiccoleman wrote: post #187
NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

> It's a fairly extensive codebase for an infinite crafting game, almost 95% AI coded, thanks to the power of Kiro: https://github.com/kirodotdev/spirit-of-kiro This, along with the "CHALLENGE.md" and "ROADMAP.md" document, is an incredibly cool way to show off your project and to give people a playground to use to try it out. The game idea itself is pretty interesting too. It would be awesome if I ... didn't have to…

Thanks a lot! I plan to fork the project and make a generic version that runs entirely locally using your GPU to do everything. My early tests ran pretty well on NVIDIA 5070. So that's next on my project list to open source in my free time. The only thing more fun that building an AI agent, is using it to build your own ideas!

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by [deleted] »

didibus wrote: post #159
theusus wrote: post #121

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Why build an editor and not a CLI. VS code is really slow for me and I would have preferred a CLI.

They already have a CLI that is similar to Claude Code: Amazon Q CLI, you can download it here: https://github.com/aws/amazon-q-developer-cli It actually has a pretty decent free tier, and maybe the subscription is better value than Claude Code, but hard to tell.

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Post by robbomacrae »

NathanKP wrote: post #69
darkwater wrote: post #20

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Hello! What is the connection with AWS? Do you work for AWS? Is this going to be some official AWS product, backed by Amazon Q or Bedrock?

Kiro is created by an AWS team, and originates from AWS expertise. We are using Kiro internally as one of our recommended tools for development within AWS (and Amazon). So Kiro is an official AWS product, however, we are also keeping it slightly separated from the rest of core AWS. For example, you can use Kiro without having any AWS account at all. Kiro has social login through Google and GitHub. Basically, Kiro is…

This is a really interesting setup. If it's not too forward to ask, how is the team structured in terms of incentives? Is Kiro fully within the AMZN comp / RSUs structure, or does it operate more like a spinout with potential for more direct upside? I’m always curious how teams balance the tradeoff between the support of a big org vs having more control over your fate by going fully independent.

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Post by esafak »

slacktivism123 wrote: post #128
ActorNightly wrote: post #122

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While I like the product, implementation could be better. Kiro is sitting idle with Helper Plugin using a shitload of CPU for no reason.

Having ten "Electron Helper (Plugin)" eat a GB of RAM each on idle is the premier desktop experience nowadays. We can't have native apps any more: we don't know how to build them.

Fortunately the next generation seems to be CLI based! Maybe we'll go back to native apps in the next generation.

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Post by NathanKP »

adastra22 wrote: post #196
NathanKP wrote: post #55

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You will be happy to find out that Kiro is quite good at this! One of my favorite features is "Steering Rules". Kiro can help you write steering rules for your projects, and the steering rules that it auto generates are actually super great for large projects. You can see some examples of auto generated steering files here in one of my open source projects: https://github.com/kirodotdev/spirit-of-kiro/tree/main/.kiro…

“I really don’t want to do X” “Kirk is actually quite good at this: you just have to do X” “…”

At the prompt: "I have extensively used Copilot, Continue, Cursor, Cline, Aider, Roo Code, and Claude Code. I do not want to move my files over again for Kiro [even if it's as simple as dragging and dropping files]. Do it for me"

Kiro will do it for you automatically.

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Post by eddythompson80 »

actualwitch wrote: post #129
wg0 wrote: post #103

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And with atom you mean Notepad++ with extra tools slapped on top?

To be fair, npp is not using electron. Atom is.

To be even more fair, the category used to be sublime clones. Sublime was on a crazy run in the early 2010s and there were various attempts at an "Open source Sublime".

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Post by retinaros »

rob wrote: post #102
theturtletalks wrote: post #67

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Seems like Amazon started making this when Cursor was hot in the market, but now that CLI agents like Claude Code are taking over, Kiro will have an uphill battle. It’s also not free or unlimited (though throttled) like Cursor and Claude Code using max plan.

I think IDE-based tools like Cursor, VS Code, etc, will win out in the long term, especially as the younger generation grows up. In the short term though, I think CLI-based tools like Claude Code are taking off because hardcore developers see them as the last "vestige" they have in separating themselves from the "noobs." They know there's still a good portion of the public who don't know how to use the terminal, inst…

You dreaming. The ui is gonna be like google for code. A voice chat and an instruction/search bar that is it. The model is the product

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by _pdp_ »

As a side note, Kiro is a diminutive of Kiril (Кирил) in Slavic-speaking countries and in Greek. A quick web search also reveals that it can mean "a curse".

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by NathanKP »

erichocean wrote: post #193
NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

How much are you using Kiro to improve itself? 100% of the time? 10% of the time? Never?

It has grown over time as Kiro has developed. Many of the most recent features in Kiro were developed using Kiro specifications. We have a Twitch stream scheduled with some engineers from the Kiro team where we plan to take live Q&A about this in specific, how they are using Kiro to build Kiro, etc. I don't have the schedule setup yet, but we've got the channel setup here: https://www.twitch.tv/kirodotdev
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