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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by SamDc73 »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #188
NathanKP wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does Kiro have some special sauce for making this approach work better? I'd like to think so, but you'd have to compare the results to what you are currently doing to see how you feel about it. I personally love the format that it uses to define requirements, and the details of the software design docs that it writes (including mermaid diagrams) > will pricing essentially be bedrock pricing, or will there be a valu…

Ah, thanks for the pricing link. I saw 'Kiro is free to use during preview' or similar and assumed pricing is hidden. At $39/month, is 3000 interactions a high limit? I use Claude Code on the $30 plan (I think), and routinely hit limits. I'm not ready to jump to the next tier, though. I think it's $200/month, and the NGO I work for isn't prepared to throw that kind of cash at developers (I'm second-rate here; the sci…

CC have $20 and $100 and a $200 tiers

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by lacoolj »

So I'm glad there are more agentic dev tools coming out, but can we please stop making entirely new IDEs and start integrating as plugins to well-established (and some already paid for) IDEs we already use? Webstorm/other Jetbrains, VS Code, etc.

It is a huge hassle to match my existing settings, which I've spent countless hours tweaking over the years, with a new editor that can't import them. :(

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by [deleted] »

NathanKP wrote: post #5

Hello folks! I've been working on Kiro for nearly a year now. Happy to chat about some of the things that make it unique in the IDE space. We've added a few powerful things that I think make it a bit different from other similar AI editors. In specific, I'm really proud of "spec driven development", which is based on the internal processes that software development teams at Amazon use to build very large technical pr…

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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by blibble »

NathanKP wrote: post #135
theusus wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why build an editor and not a CLI. VS code is really slow for me and I would have preferred a CLI.

Stay tuned! I think there is definitely room for a CLI version as well. That said, IDE's have a significant advantage over CLI because of the features available to them. For example, the reason why IDE's feel "slow" is often because they just come with more features: automatic linters and code formatters, type checkers, LSP servers. An agent running in the IDE can make use of all this context to provide better result…

> For example, the reason why IDE's feel "slow" is often because they just come with more features:

IDEs don't feel slow, they ARE slow

because written in HTML and Javascript

go and try Delphi from 2005, it's blazing fast (and more functional...)

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by tristan957 »

Tokumei-no-hito wrote: post #116
xena wrote: post #43

This doesn't support development containers ( https://containers.dev ), which means I can't insulate my machine from AI tooling. Not keen on this unless it's somehow earth-shattering.

why doesn't it support them?

The remote containers extension on VSCode is proprietary. Cursor had to write their remote extension suite.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by NathanKP »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #188
NathanKP wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does Kiro have some special sauce for making this approach work better? I'd like to think so, but you'd have to compare the results to what you are currently doing to see how you feel about it. I personally love the format that it uses to define requirements, and the details of the software design docs that it writes (including mermaid diagrams) > will pricing essentially be bedrock pricing, or will there be a valu…

Ah, thanks for the pricing link. I saw 'Kiro is free to use during preview' or similar and assumed pricing is hidden. At $39/month, is 3000 interactions a high limit? I use Claude Code on the $30 plan (I think), and routinely hit limits. I'm not ready to jump to the next tier, though. I think it's $200/month, and the NGO I work for isn't prepared to throw that kind of cash at developers (I'm second-rate here; the sci…

It's hard to directly compare, but 3000 interactions should be very, very high. Think of each of these 3000 interactions as you supplying a prompt that potentially runs for 3-5 minutes of Kiro iterating away on writing code. With appropriately sized prompts (most likely aided by spec mode), you could write a ridiculous amount of code.

For reference 3000 interactions * assumed 3 mins of AI work per interaction / 60 mins per hour / 8 working hours per day equals 18.75 working days of nonstop back to back AI coding. Typical month has 20-23 working days. But realistically you likely won't be using Kiro nonstop all day back to back, so 3000 interactions per month should more than cover your work month.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by consumer451 »

Important details from the FAQ, emphasis mine:

> For users who access Kiro with Pro or Pro+ tiers once they are available, your content is not used to train any underlying foundation models (FMs). AWS might collect and use client-side telemetry and usage metrics for service improvement purposes. You can opt out of this data collection by adjusting your settings in the IDE. For the Kiro Free tier and during preview, your content, including code snippets, conversations, and file contents open in the IDE, unless explicitly opted out, may be used to enhance and improve the quality of FMs. Your content will not be used if you use the opt-out mechanism described in the documentation. If you have an Amazon Q Developer Pro subscription and access Kiro through your AWS account with the Amazon Q Developer Pro subscription, then Kiro will not use your content for service improvement. For more information, see Service Improvement.

https://kiro.dev/faq/

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by imiric »

lacoolj wrote: post #202

So I'm glad there are more agentic dev tools coming out, but can we please stop making entirely new IDEs and start integrating as plugins to well-established (and some already paid for) IDEs we already use? Webstorm/other Jetbrains, VS Code, etc. It is a huge hassle to match my existing settings, which I've spent countless hours tweaking over the years, with a new editor that can't import them. :(

The obvious solution is a meta-IDE that integrates all these other IDEs and plugins.[1]

Or, you know, stop chasing the latest trends, and use whatever you're most comfortable with.

[1]: https://xkcd.com/927/

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