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Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf

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Re: Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf

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Post by margalabargala »

abletonlive wrote: post #95
kubb wrote: post #91

Unpopular, controversial take: there should be an LSP extension that lets CLI agents, like Claude Code show diffs in the editor, and also one for completions, and sending snippets back to the CLI. That, by itself, would obliterate the entire value of Windsurf or Cursor or whatever. The fact that Google has this kind of money and spends it on dubious "talent" (though none of these people are known in the community) is…

"overfunded" is a weird way to talk about a tech company that is incredibly profitable.

Revenue is a funding source. Companies with too much money sometimes made really dumb decisions with that money.

The fact that one division of Google is wildly profitable does not exempt other parts of the company from criticism of their financially dubious choices.

Re: Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf

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Post by Aurornis »

makin wrote: post #8

I was a bit confused as to what "Cognition" was, but they're the makers of Devin (edit: that just got added to the title, for reference), so that makes sense. Just buying the competition, the only surprise is they had more money to spend than the big ones.

> the only surprise is they had more money to spend than the big ones

The sale price for Windsurf was likely significantly lower than the original acquisition plans.

It didn't go to $0 like some predicted, but it was never going to be as valuable as it was before the executives bailed on it.

Re: Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf

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Post by no_wizard »

objclxt wrote: post #65
_jab wrote: post #60

Let this be a learning lesson in judging these deals based on partial information. Kudos to the Google, Windsurf, and Cognition teams for keeping all of these deals under wraps until announcement (OpenAI could learn something...), but even so it's likely that we the public will never learn every detail of what transpired. I've seen a lot of harsh, misguided takes over the past few days, like that the Windsurf founder…

> I've seen a lot of harsh, misguided takes over the past few days, like that the Windsurf founders screwed over their employees [...] In this case, this seems like a happy ending for all parties involved There is no evidence at all in the announcement that is the case. It just says "100% of Windsurf employees will participate financially in this deal". What "participate financially" looks like is not elaborated upon…

>It is possible you're right. It's also equally possible that the founders have still screwed over their employees, we just don't know. Nothing in this post supports either position.

In the lack of evidence, its okay to assume the most likely scenario, which is the executives & shareholders will make out like bandits and everyone else is likely to at best, get pennies.

Re: Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf

#107

Post by herval »

827a wrote: post #102

Does anyone actually use Windsurf? I know a ton of people on Cursor, Cline, Roo, Claude Code... but zero people in my engineering circles have even mentioned trying Windsurf.

For me it was substantially better than Cursor. Their RAG/code indexing/whatever implementation is better (Cursor seems to completely fall apart on larger codebases, unless you keep a very detailed cursorrules file). The cmd+tab was also substantially better. Plus it's cheaper than using Cline.

But with all this changing of hands, I'm not sure I can trust it going forward at all, so I guess it's back to looking for alternatives.

Re: Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf

#108

Post by d1egoaz »

kubb wrote: post #91

Unpopular, controversial take: there should be an LSP extension that lets CLI agents, like Claude Code show diffs in the editor, and also one for completions, and sending snippets back to the CLI. That, by itself, would obliterate the entire value of Windsurf or Cursor or whatever. The fact that Google has this kind of money and spends it on dubious "talent" (though none of these people are known in the community) is…

This already exists via MCP

> For other IDEs: The protocol is editor-agnostic. Any editor that can run a WebSocket server and implement the MCP tools can integrate with Claude Code.

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/1234 https://github.com/coder/claudecode.nvim/blob/da78309eaa2ca2...

Example in Emacs, this is how I use claude-code: https://github.com/manzaltu/claude-code-ide.el

Re: Cognition (Devin AI) to Acquire Windsurf

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Post by brulard »

barbazoo wrote: post #96
kubb wrote: post #91

Unpopular, controversial take: there should be an LSP extension that lets CLI agents, like Claude Code show diffs in the editor, and also one for completions, and sending snippets back to the CLI. That, by itself, would obliterate the entire value of Windsurf or Cursor or whatever. The fact that Google has this kind of money and spends it on dubious "talent" (though none of these people are known in the community) is…

> That, by itself, would obliterate the entire value of Windsurf or Cursor or whatever. Have used Cursor and I know that there is quite a bit of value between the model and the chat input box and it will be similar to Claude Code or Codex, it's what makes this agentic, it's just accessed through a different interface. So from that perspective, Cursor makes sense for folks that are already in the VSCode environment.

On the contrary, I'm already in the VSCode environment and I would hate to have to switch to Cursor. Doesn't matter that it is a fork, I don't want a fork for every extension of my workflow. I used Cline and now Claude code integrated to VSCode, and I don't think I'm missing much by not switching to Cursor.
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