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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by twilo »

aspenmayer wrote: post #481
userbinator wrote: post #464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They started going down that route many years ago now (Windows 10 "telemetry" being a critical inflection point), but the Microsoft of the 80s and 90s and even early 2000s was not about mass surveillance but selling software.

Perhaps you’re right, but by the time Microsoft acquired Hotmail in 1997, MSN was already two years old and had its own dialup service. Microsoft knew what they were doing.

Yes but like the post above says MS didn’t start to “monetize” their users until the 2000s and it was mainly because Google set up that beautiful business model… on top of Microsoft’s platform (Windows) which makes the whole thing really funny

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by paffdragon »

dheera wrote: post #497
zulban wrote: post #361

I don't "bypass" Chrome when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Firefox. I don't "bypass" Windows when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Linux. No idea why so many "hackers" doing "bypasses" can't instead take action that is simpler, long lasting, and easier. Do people need to jerked around 50 times for 20 years before realizing it will keep happening and their "bypa…

Firefox still doesn't work. 1 - Google Meet consumes 40%-100% of my CPU on Firefox, and my laptop becomes a space heater 2 - My Yubikeys don't work. Touching them doesn't get into any of the websites I use that use 2FA. So, no Firefox.

Is this on Linux? Do you have an example of a website where Yubikey does not work? I'm curious, because I use Firefox on Linux for years, also for work, and never hit a site where my Yubikeys would not work. (I'm also using Google Meet regularly for work from Firefox without problems)

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by vachina »

mumbisChungo wrote: post #420
zulban wrote: post #361

I don't "bypass" Chrome when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Firefox. I don't "bypass" Windows when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Linux. No idea why so many "hackers" doing "bypasses" can't instead take action that is simpler, long lasting, and easier. Do people need to jerked around 50 times for 20 years before realizing it will keep happening and their "bypa…

What makes firefox better than brave?

Firefox is not a Chromium fork

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by duped »

pjmlp wrote: post #400
azangru wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> instead of learning Web standards, rather ships Chrome alongside their application I am confused. - The "shipping Chrome alongside their application" part seems to refer to Electron; but Electron is hardly guilty of what is described in the article. - The "learning web standards" bit seems to impune web developers; but how are they guilty of the Chrome monopoly? If anything, they are guilty of shipping react apps i…

Web features being pushed by Google via Chrome, aren't standards, unless everyone actually agrees they are worthy of becoming one. Shipping Electron junk, strengthens Google and Chrome market presence, and the reference to Web standards, why bother when it is whatever Chrome is capable of. Web devs with worthy skills of forgotten times, would rather use regular processes alongside the default system browser.

There are no realistic alternatives to Electron. So calling it "junk" when its the baseline for "cross platform GUI application" is nonsense.

I get that you don't like it, so go build an alternative.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by flufluflufluffy »

zulban wrote: post #361

I don't "bypass" Chrome when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Firefox. I don't "bypass" Windows when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Linux. No idea why so many "hackers" doing "bypasses" can't instead take action that is simpler, long lasting, and easier. Do people need to jerked around 50 times for 20 years before realizing it will keep happening and their "bypa…

Bro it’s for the fun and interest of figuring it out. That’s what hackers do. The writer obviously knew it’s a “temporary bandaid” — they notified Google about it themself.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by krackers »

xnx wrote: post #440
GeekyBear wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Extensions are untrusted code that should have as little access as possible. It's entirely possible to manually vet extension code and extension updates in the same way that Mozilla does as part of their Firefox recommended extensions program. > Firefox is committed to helping protect you against third-party software that may inadvertently compromise your data – or worse – breach your privacy with malicious intent.…

> It's entirely possible to manually vet extension code and extension updates I thought the core vulnerability of Manifest v2 is the new code can be loaded by an extension on the fly without any extension update. How would you vet that?

The same way it's done with V3, because no permission-level blacklist/whitelist is going to prevent the person from creating an interpreter within JS itself.

Looking at https://developer.chrome.com/docs/webstore/troubleshooting#a... it seems most of the heavily lifting is done with some combination of static/dynamic analysis during extension review. The same analysis (plus trivially catching eval) could be done with V2 as well.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by johnnyanmac »

zulban wrote: post #361

I don't "bypass" Chrome when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Firefox. I don't "bypass" Windows when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Linux. No idea why so many "hackers" doing "bypasses" can't instead take action that is simpler, long lasting, and easier. Do people need to jerked around 50 times for 20 years before realizing it will keep happening and their "bypa…

I switched to Firefox, but I'm unfortunately stuck to Windows for professional work. I need several high profile software to get proper Linux support before I can make that jump.

When I eventually go indie, though: I am 100% making use of a Linux workflow.

>Do people need to jerked around 50 times for 20 years before realizing it will keep happening and their "bypasses" are just temporary bandaids?

Sadly, yes. The networkign effect is extremely strong. Twitter was complained about even before musk, but it still too 3 years before people really started considering the move. emphasis on "consider": because twitter still has a lot of foot traffic for what it is in 2025.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by dheera »

paffdragon wrote: post #512
dheera wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox still doesn't work. 1 - Google Meet consumes 40%-100% of my CPU on Firefox, and my laptop becomes a space heater 2 - My Yubikeys don't work. Touching them doesn't get into any of the websites I use that use 2FA. So, no Firefox.

Is this on Linux? Do you have an example of a website where Yubikey does not work? I'm curious, because I use Firefox on Linux for years, also for work, and never hit a site where my Yubikeys would not work. (I'm also using Google Meet regularly for work from Firefox without problems)

Yes, Linux.

No site works for me. Facebook, Google, none of them work. Even the demo at https://demo.yubico.com/webauthn-technical/ does not work.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by chii »

zulban wrote: post #361

I don't "bypass" Chrome when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Firefox. I don't "bypass" Windows when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Linux. No idea why so many "hackers" doing "bypasses" can't instead take action that is simpler, long lasting, and easier. Do people need to jerked around 50 times for 20 years before realizing it will keep happening and their "bypa…

> use Linux

except that for a majority of users, windows is where their applications are at - such as gaming, word processing, or some other thing. Sure there are replacements (somewhat) for each of those categories, but they are not direct replacements, and require a cost of some kind (retraining, or a substitute quality). This is esp. true for gaming, and it's only recent that gaming has made some inroads via the steam deck (steamOS), which isn't available to a general PC (only handheld PCs with AMD processors iirc).

People who say "just switch" to linux hasn't done it for their family/friends.

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