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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #451
fooker wrote: post #413

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Great, except firefox is pretty bad nowadays. Not their fault of course, with people not testing websites on non chrome derived browsers.

How? Seriously, I keep seeing this argument against using Firefox, but as a long time user I fail to see any glaring issues with it. The only websites that break for me are those I broke on purpose by using ad-block.

> I keep seeing this argument against using Firefox, but as a long time user I fail to see any glaring issues with it.

No glaring or usability issues.

What happened is that Firefox added some defaults that mimic a tiny bit of Chromium browser behavior.

    Recommend extensions as you browse
    Recommend features as you browse
    Send technical and interaction data to Mozilla
    Allow websites to perform privacy-preserving ad measurement
There's that and the long-time sponsored crap on the new tab page. It takes a moment to toggle it all off.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by whatshisface »

mrcsharp wrote: post #376
zulban wrote: post #361

I don't "bypass" Chrome when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Firefox. I don't "bypass" Windows when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Linux. No idea why so many "hackers" doing "bypasses" can't instead take action that is simpler, long lasting, and easier. Do people need to jerked around 50 times for 20 years before realizing it will keep happening and their "bypa…

> No idea why so many "hackers" doing "bypasses" .... Because that's what it means to be a hacker. Yes, installing Firefox is simpler (and I'm a Firefox user) but I respect the effort to overcome Google's measures in disallowing certain addons.

>But I don't know how to make an adblocker, so I decided to report the issue to Google in August 2023. It was patched in Chrome 118 by checking whether extensions using opt_webViewInstanceId actually had WebView permissions. For the report, I netted a massive reward of $0. They decided it wasn't a security issue, and honestly, I agree, because it didn't give extensions access to data they didn't already have.

The effort to overcome the community's chance at discovering the workaround?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by eviks »

CharlesW wrote: post #137
rollcat wrote: post #132

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It's the same Blink engine underneath. Talk about lipstick. I'm not aware of a Blink-based browser that isn't dropping manifest V2. That would be a soft fork, and wouldn't survive long.

https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/

> When Google removes MV2 extensions from Chrome Web Store, they will be disabled for Brave users as well, except for these 4 supported extensions.

Oh, thanks, welcome news! Wish Vivaldi did the same

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by userbinator »

leptons wrote: post #459
userbinator wrote: post #442

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There's a huge difference between antitrust concerns, and mass surveillance and anti-user hostility. MS' business back then was to sell software, not monetise users.

You don't think Microsoft is doing mass surveillance? They own Outlook and Teams, and Windows 11 is quickly turning into a platform for training AI on your data. I doubt Edge is going to be much different. It's the reason I'm switching to Linux.

They started going down that route many years ago now (Windows 10 "telemetry" being a critical inflection point), but the Microsoft of the 80s and 90s and even early 2000s was not about mass surveillance but selling software.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by jklas2hjdsdk »

myko wrote: post #227
crinkly wrote: post #87

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Initially the increase in frequency of the advertising on Android youtube app. Followed by uBlock being broken in Chrome. Followed by uBlock being tarpitted in Firefox. Followed by FreeTube client getting 403 IP forbidden requests and DRM content shovelled down which could not be rendered. They just did everything to make sure I watched the ads and burn all my bandwidth, which can be somewhat limited and expensive as…

Did you consider YouTube Premium? It works really well and no ads. Seems like a pittance for the service YouTube provides

$180 dollars annually is a pittance to you? So please enlighten us...? You could certainly change a persons life with that. It is not a trivial sum, so please do not insult poorer members of this community.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by eviks »

lucb1e wrote: post #290
dangraper2 wrote: post #229

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Weird, Firefox blows Chrome out of the water. What do you smoke?

The smoke on the water! More seriously, I'm a Firefox user since ~2006 but I'm about equally surprised by the statement that Firefox should blow Chrome/ium out of the water as that Firefox supposedly sucks. They're both browsers. I think Chromium is a bit faster in page rendering, whereas Firefox is more open, privacy-friendly, and customizable. Similar to how I wish consumers would not choose an anti-consumer organi…

> Firefox is more open, privacy-friendly, and customizable.

How do you customize the default keyboard shortcuts?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by jklas2hjdsdk »

Karsteski wrote: post #13
labrador wrote: post #9

I'd gladly pay for YouTube without ads if I trusted that it would remain ad free, but the track record from various companies on this is not good.

I tried paying for YouTube premium then they fucked around by not giving me all the features I paid for when I was visiting another country. There's no winning with these people.

Yes me too, and they fucked me.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by fud101 »

ndriscoll wrote: post #453
fud101 wrote: post #380

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Bro you probably have a monster mac pro with 256gb unified ram. I'm typing this on a N100 minipc. We're not the same. I just tried to switch to firefox (with 3 tabs including HN and youtube) and my load topped out at 2.5. I'm back to chrome now with the same tabs (and a couple more) and it's hovering at 1.

I've been using an n100 as my daily driver for months with librewolf and it's fine. I tend to end up with dozens of tabs at least before I finally decide I'll never sort through them and close the window.

16gb of ram also? I think it's youtube more than anything else. I am having a lot of problems with youtube, my other machine is a netbook which crashes while listening/watching to videos on youtube. Not sure why we put all our content (software engineering, etc) on that platform. It's awful.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by billmcneale »

zulban wrote: post #361

I don't "bypass" Chrome when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Firefox. I don't "bypass" Windows when they want to melt my brain with their business model, I use Linux. No idea why so many "hackers" doing "bypasses" can't instead take action that is simpler, long lasting, and easier. Do people need to jerked around 50 times for 20 years before realizing it will keep happening and their "bypa…

Not everyone has your luxury of being able to choose their tools.
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