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Light exposure at night predicts incidence of cardiovascular diseases

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Re: Light exposure at night predicts incidence of cardiovascular diseases

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does it make a difference if it's warm or blue light?

I think it doesn't make any difference. Back in Russia, I used 2700K or 3000K LEDs. Here in the Philippines, high-CRI warm-color LEDs are unobtainable, and the culture exhibits a nearly-universal shift to 6500K indoor lights (unlike in Europe), so I use 6500K, just like everyone else here. It still works.

6500k? Deliberately in the home??

Is this one of those things where some element is considered desirable in the Western world (e.g. warm white lighting) but is associated with destitution in another culture (because it’s like incandescent lighting)?

Re: Light exposure at night predicts incidence of cardiovascular diseases

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So use the toilet in the dark?

I've always wondered about people who say that... there's enough light (particularly when it's not a new moon) to see to go the bathroom, but maybe my eyes adjust to the light better?

Unless you use shutters so the room is completely dark

Re: Light exposure at night predicts incidence of cardiovascular diseases

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What can we do about the tendency of research articles to get their big flash of publicity before undergoing peer review?

We need to make it a lot cooler for researchers to not do original research all the time but to do replication and peer review. We should also demand publication of failures -- it's ok to fail, but only if you publish about the failure. The whole publish-or-perish culture is a disaster that incentivizes cheating. It should be considered just as valuable to have a few grad students working on replication as on origina…

> We need to make it a lot cooler for researchers to not do original research all the time but to do replication and peer review.

This should be the work of grad students, not cranking out another paper or slaving for professors.

> We should also demand publication of failures -- it's ok to fail, but only if you publish about the failure.

I really want to have a journal that just publishes interesting duds. Someone else might look at your methodology and get their own idea.

Re: Light exposure at night predicts incidence of cardiovascular diseases

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Couldn't find the actual light levels associated with relative most/least bright.

It's in Table 1, of the paper. The "safe" night-time level for the bottom 50% of the population is surprising low, 0-1.21 lux. I've been sleeping for years with 10-20 lux (inner city, blinds open so I can enjoy the city lights). Maybe I'll need to close the blinds?

Re: Light exposure at night predicts incidence of cardiovascular diseases

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If the article had said regularly having to go to work before 9:00 a.m. predicts incidence of cardiovascular disease, would we be having the same conversation?

Good catch, although there are plenty of studies and even metastudies on that topic (eg https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11129786/ ); generally speaking, the healthiest people are those who work "normal" day shifts with "normal" hours (full time; not part time; no overtime).

Isn't that just a rough proxy for wealth? Outside of the coke-fueled hedge fund manager, the poor are more likely to have over-time/shift-work/irregular work hours. Your standard office drone can have a consistent work/sleep schedule.
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