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Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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> but also because the law sets the standard, it can also provide a new one. If the people writing the law cared about privacy they wouldn't have passed that one, and anybody who does would be repealing it rather than trying to find the best shade of lipstick for the pig. > Which information is collected is made legible by the user agents This is the part you don't need a law in order to do because the user can choos…

I figured I’d get this response, but: I don’t see my primary care doctor selling my health data, due in part to data privacy laws like HIPAA. Consumer companies take COPPA seriously. You absolutely cannot control what companies do with data, so you want to prevent its collection in the first place – but you can penalize them when they do something wrong, which does influence their beyavior. The jury is still out on t…

Every doctor I've been to makes me sign a paper that says I acknowledge all my data will be shared with all of their partners.

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Because just like the argument with social media in my opinion it’s better to have governmental regulation on these things so millions of households don’t have to have the same argument with their kids and kids not on social media platforms don’t get left out of a significant percentage of teenage life effectively socially stunting them.

No, it is not better for children to grow up in a fucking Orwellian dystopia just because you have hang-ups about sex.

I’m less concerned about porn/sex and more concerned about smartphone and social media usage.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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> conservative Christians are trying to eliminate ALL sexually-related speech online I don’t really appreciate this framing. Despite being a very conservative Christian (at least in many ways, if not others) I don’t approve of or agree with the scope of SCOTUS’ current ruling, nor do I approve of all the age- verification laws as written. It seems futile to attempt to make everybody everywhere do this and create a lo…

Would you also understand impetus behind any proposed hypothetical ban on alcohol, tobacco, firearms, or anything else that causes harm to the society?

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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If the Supreme Court agrees they are constitutional then they clearly are constitutional, unless you think the constitution doesn’t apply

If Mommy says I can't eat carrots because they are bad for me, I have to listen to her. But I don't have to listen to her because she's right, it's because she's mommy.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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There was a NYT article a couple weeks ago about Chinese morality police doing mass arrests of erotica authors, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/28/world/asia/china-boys-lov... ( "Chinese Police Detain Dozens of Writers Over Gay Erotic Online Novels" ) [note article contains large images of erotica novel covers] But you'd *expect* that of the PRC; the US, wow, has it ever fallen fast and fallen hard.

The Supreme Court is just doing their part as a part of Project 2025 (which is about 50% accomplished already btw)

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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R rated movies for one.

Absolutely not "banned". Movie theaters customarily won't let children under 17 into R-rated films without a parent, but there's no law that I'm aware of enforcing that - it's purely an industry custom. And there's certainly no analogous restriction when purchasing an R-rated DVD, or watching one on a streaming service.

Oh wild. Learn something new every day. I worked at a movie theater myself and totally thought it was a law that people under 18 had to be accompanied by a guardian by law.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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> but also because the law sets the standard, it can also provide a new one. If the people writing the law cared about privacy they wouldn't have passed that one, and anybody who does would be repealing it rather than trying to find the best shade of lipstick for the pig. > Which information is collected is made legible by the user agents This is the part you don't need a law in order to do because the user can choos…

I figured I’d get this response, but: I don’t see my primary care doctor selling my health data, due in part to data privacy laws like HIPAA. Consumer companies take COPPA seriously. You absolutely cannot control what companies do with data, so you want to prevent its collection in the first place – but you can penalize them when they do something wrong, which does influence their beyavior. The jury is still out on t…

> I don’t see my primary care doctor selling my health data, due in part to data privacy laws like HIPAA. Consumer companies take COPPA seriously.

Insurance companies are laughing all the way to the bank.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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> but also because the law sets the standard, it can also provide a new one. If the people writing the law cared about privacy they wouldn't have passed that one, and anybody who does would be repealing it rather than trying to find the best shade of lipstick for the pig. > Which information is collected is made legible by the user agents This is the part you don't need a law in order to do because the user can choos…

I figured I’d get this response, but: I don’t see my primary care doctor selling my health data, due in part to data privacy laws like HIPAA. Consumer companies take COPPA seriously. You absolutely cannot control what companies do with data, so you want to prevent its collection in the first place – but you can penalize them when they do something wrong, which does influence their beyavior. The jury is still out on t…

> I don’t see my primary care doctor selling my health data, due in part to data privacy laws like HIPAA.

I'm glad I didn't get a diagnosis and treatment for ADHD, ADD, or autism.

The enemy is also government, especially with RFK's anti-autism trend, along with trawling through all medical records with those diagnoses.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID? If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and…

And we could call this way… zero-knowledge proof! :) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof I bet we could even get a major phone OS vendor to support such a thing… https://blog.google/products/google-pay/google-wallet-age-id...

It would be preferable if the prover party that holds the credentials in this scenario weren't Google. If anything I'd prefer a government issued digital ID with some form of local-only cryptographic exchange where neither the government knows someone has verified at a particular site/service and the verifier doesn't get info about one's identity. Just some cryptographic proof that verifies an age ('just' is doing some heavy lifting).

In past HN comments this apparently exists IRL in Germany and/or Canada, where age can be proven via a smartphone without leaking one's identity to the verifier and without any communication back to the government.

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