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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by irrational »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #261
al_borland wrote: post #66

Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.

This wasn't really the point of the article, which in fact says the workaround was patched in Chrome 118.

Because the author reported it. Personally I would have told the ublock origin developers instead of google.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by chrsw »

agile-gift0262 wrote: post #117
high_priest wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not happening

I switched to Firefox and it's been wonderful. I wonder why I didn't switch earlier. It's only been a couple of months, but I can't imagine going back to a browser without multi-account containers.

I still find some pages don't work 100% correctly in Firefox. But not nearly enough to keep me from using it on my personal machines. (My employer doesn't allow any browser except Chrome and Edge). For me, the most important feature of a browser is the web experience. I guess it should be security but I try to be careful about what I do online, regardless of what browser I'm using.

Many years ago I used to run the Firefox NoScript extension exclusively. For sites that I trusted and visited frequently I would add their domains to an exceptions list. For sites that I wasn't sure about I would load it with all scripts disabled and then selectively kept allowing scripts until the site was functional, starting with the scripts hosted on the same domain as the site I wanted to see/use.

Eventually I got too lazy to keep doing that but outside of the painstaking overhead it was by far the best web experience I ever had. I started getting pretty good at recognizing what scripts I needed to enable to get the site to load/work. Plus, uBlock Origin and annoyances filters got so good I didn't stress about the web so much any more.

But all this got me thinking, why not have the browser block all scripts by default, then have an AI agent selectively enable scripts until I get the functionality I need? I can even give feedback to the agent so it can improve over time. This would essentially be automating what I was dong myself years ago. Why wouldn't this work? Do I not understand AI? Or web technology? Or are people already doing this?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by RockstarSprain »

Would love to give Firefox a chance but one thing that stops me (apart from occasional website loading bugs) is inability to install PWAs. Not sure why it’s not implemented like it has been for a long time in Chrome and all its forks.

I have found a 3rd party extension that claims to facilitate this (0) but still feel uncomfortable to use this for privacy reasons.

(0) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-fire...

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

irrational wrote: post #291
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This wasn't really the point of the article, which in fact says the workaround was patched in Chrome 118.

Because the author reported it. Personally I would have told the ublock origin developers instead of google.

To what end? So Google can see how it works and still patch it?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by alex1138 »

1) A lot of ads are terribly overdone and even sometimes actively malicious (malware or tracking). It makes no sense to aggressively try to stamp it out like Google is doing

2) Aside from the Page/Brin stealing tech salaries thing (yeah it really did happen) what happened to Google? They've always been a bit incompetent but their behavior (ie Chrome and increasing censorship on Google/Youtube the last few years) has been really bad, I thought they were basically founded off idealism

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by technofiend »

nfriedly wrote: post #168
galangalalgol wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only time I've used anything but firefox for the last. Well probably since netscape honestly? I am so old. Is to get the in flight entertainment to work on american, but firefox has worked for that for a few years now. People say chrome is faster and in the early 2000s I might have agreed, but now I really don't understand why anyone not on a mac or iphone isn't using Firefox. It is great.

Firefox is great on Mac too. You have a point about iPhones, though. It's almost pointless, but not quite: it does get a few features, like cross-platform sync. "Real" Firefox is one of the things that keeps me on Android.

I recently discovered that my jetkvm won't work on chrome, firefox or safari in macos, even after trying various workarounds to enable webrtc. The fix was to boot up Fedora in parallels and use Firefox there. In fact I'm thinking about shifting all my browsing to that combination just for further isolation.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by 1oooqooq »

chrsw wrote: post #292
agile-gift0262 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to Firefox and it's been wonderful. I wonder why I didn't switch earlier. It's only been a couple of months, but I can't imagine going back to a browser without multi-account containers.

I still find some pages don't work 100% correctly in Firefox. But not nearly enough to keep me from using it on my personal machines. (My employer doesn't allow any browser except Chrome and Edge). For me, the most important feature of a browser is the web experience. I guess it should be security but I try to be careful about what I do online, regardless of what browser I'm using. Many years ago I used to run the Fi…

> I still find some pages don't work 100% correctly in Firefox.

find that hard to believe. but even if you find something using an api not implement by firefox, chances are you definitely do not want that feature anyway, the firefox gave in to really awful stuff and only drew the line on obviously egregious privacy violation ones.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by nfriedly »

galangalalgol wrote: post #175
nfriedly wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox is great on Mac too. You have a point about iPhones, though. It's almost pointless, but not quite: it does get a few features, like cross-platform sync. "Real" Firefox is one of the things that keeps me on Android.

Can you still get real Firefox on mac? I thought they forced chromium on there now too? The only time I got MacBook I put linux on it within a few months.

Yep, you can run Firefox on every Mac released for the past couple of decades. (Maybe more?)

Most of them also work with Linux, although it's a little more spotty on the more recent ARM-based ones ("apple silicon").

Macs are essentially "real computers" that you can run whatever software you want on, whereas iPhones and iPads are much more locked down. (Even when they have the same CPU.)

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