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Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID? If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and…

The slippery slope from here to banning under 18s looking at websites discussing suicidal thoughts, transgender issues, homosexually and onto anything some group of middle age mothers decide isn't appropriate seems dangerously anti-fallacitical.

For example, banning sites that criticize the religion of the mother.

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> Blocking puberty until eighteen is a harmful intervention in itself For a trans kid, going thru the wrong puberty is harmful. The best thing would be hormones at puberty. But given issues around informed consent, puberty blockers are a valid compromise. Calling them harmful without considering the harm of the alternative is not honest.

And who decides if a puberty is "wrong"? The child itself certainly isn't mature enough.

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The internet is already blocked by age. In order to order internet service, you must be an adult, and you must prove it by showing papers, such as residence and pay stubs. Once the service or good is sold, all bets are off. The clerk at the corner store might ask for your ID to buy alcohol, yes. But they do not follow you home to ensure you don't give wine to your kid. And, if they did, would you be comfortable with…

The internet is not blocked by age. Any child with a laptop or phone, or any other device that can connect to a wifi hotspot, can access it. Do you refuse to watch age-restricted films in the cinema because the owner of the cinema might have a record of what you've watched? Age-restricted websites are no different. You can comply with the access requirement, or refrain from using the service. It's your freedom of cho…

> Give me your ID or stop posting on HN. No one is forcing you to post on HN. If you don't want me to know your name and address and age and driver's license number and keep a record of everything you say that I sell to anybody I want and store in an unencrypted hard drive, you don't have to post.

Do you see the problem yet?

Sgould I say "Cambridge Analytica" now or later?

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Guess a few what?

Reasons why not.

I still don't see any reason erasing bots and captchas from my online experience is bad. I hate bots and captchas. They add absolutely no value to my life. Conversely there is lots to be gained if imagine if something like X or reddit or whatever can anonymously verify that a user is a person and over 18 or 21 or 30 even (whatever) without having to directly handle identities. It's could be all the benefits of a bouncer checking for a pulse and valid ID without the privacy invasion. If done correctly it can also make fraud more difficult.

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Yes, it should apply to all medical treatments targeted at children, since children don't have developed critical thinking skills. Do you think it's appropriate for random people to tell a 10 year old how to take their insulin? I don't.

And if doctors develop treatment plans for trans children its ok?

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And honestly, with the advent of AI spam everywhere, I'd be quite happy to visit a version of the internet where everyone is a certified real person

You won't though. Malicious actors will find a way around this - either purchasing or stealing whatever form of ID is used for this. The only people who will suffer are law-abiding citizens simply trying to browse the Internet.

"Workarounds?" Malicious actors will just operate out of different countries like they always have.

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A bit of a rant on the topic of digital supervision and age verification: Speaking personally, parent supervision was detrimental to my development as a child. I recently reached the liberation of legal adulthood. While my parents are often sweet, their intents did not always have the desired consequences given how they were enforced. Until I was around 15, I didn't have any computer I was able to freely tinker with,…

Obviously, there’s a difference between access to programming materials and the unethical majority of the internet. I had access to the former at about 12 but no access to the internet until age ~23. Was about perfect.

When did you grow up?

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Because 'online' is the entire planet, including sellers in foreign countries. Would you like to have "digital borders" between countries, where data has to show some sort of passport to cross the border?

I mean if the alternative is complete lawlessness, then I suppose I do want digital borders. AMA.

Challenge accepted

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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So majority chooses what healthcare options are available?

> So majority chooses what healthcare options are available? You sound surprised, so maybe you really don't know this: this state of affairs is how it's always been, and is likely to continue well into the future. The government regulates all medicines, all medical procedures, and all medical practices. It's literally one of the many jobs of government.

Government run did not always mean majority ruled. Many times rights of the minority have been ruled to be important, as in cases like abortion. In today’s US, we’re trending toward enforcing minority opinions about e.g. vaccines.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Because 'online' is the entire planet, including sellers in foreign countries. Would you like to have "digital borders" between countries, where data has to show some sort of passport to cross the border?

I mean if the alternative is complete lawlessness, then I suppose I do want digital borders. AMA.

How old are you?
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