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Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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It's a matter of time before the US system crumbles if these assaults on the federal system and civil liberties continue. I live in state with a population of 40 million who gives $83 billion more to the federal government than gets back. It's absolutely insane we have to be ruled by afar by what is effectively a small minority. This will come to a head not only in Censorship, Immigration, Tariffs, Abortion access (b…

A variation of “no taxation without representation”?

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

#472

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No, some of them are. More evangelicals than my crowd. Morality bears directly on what we consider to be a just society, so I don’t care if you don’t care. You’re broadening the scope beyond this particular issue, where I’m guessing I agree with you. It’s not virtuous to act right because the state makes you, but the question of what we require and preclude is defined by our moral frameworks at some level. I’m not su…

> massively negative effects pornography has on mostly young men Can you provide any source for this?

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Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

#474

It's a matter of time before the US system crumbles if these assaults on the federal system and civil liberties continue. I live in state with a population of 40 million who gives $83 billion more to the federal government than gets back. It's absolutely insane we have to be ruled by afar by what is effectively a small minority. This will come to a head not only in Censorship, Immigration, Tariffs, Abortion access (b…

Since the civil war it’s been clear no one is getting out alive.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

#475

> conservative Christians are trying to eliminate ALL sexually-related speech online I don’t really appreciate this framing. Despite being a very conservative Christian (at least in many ways, if not others) I don’t approve of or agree with the scope of SCOTUS’ current ruling, nor do I approve of all the age- verification laws as written. It seems futile to attempt to make everybody everywhere do this and create a lo…

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Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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post #456

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That you have it backwards, because you do. Pornhub preemptively blocked states that were considering implementing ID rules, and states are not actively blocking Pornhub.

You don't seem to grasp the argument. From above: > These people will never actually ban pornography > Not sure how one can say that with a straight face when there are US states that literally block pornhub, but okay You then say, well actually they weren't blocked by the states, they were blocked by the sites themselves to protest a bill that passed. The issue is this clarification is totally irrelevant given the c…

Here's the OP I'm responding to:

> Not sure how one can say that with a straight face when there are US states that literally block pornhub, but okay.

Note the word "literally" in the statement that US state are literally blocking Pornhub.

That is not the case. Pornhub blocked the states preemptively, not the other way around.

Hope this helps.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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post #456

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That you have it backwards, because you do. Pornhub preemptively blocked states that were considering implementing ID rules, and states are not actively blocking Pornhub.

You don't seem to grasp the argument. From above: > These people will never actually ban pornography > Not sure how one can say that with a straight face when there are US states that literally block pornhub, but okay You then say, well actually they weren't blocked by the states, they were blocked by the sites themselves to protest a bill that passed. The issue is this clarification is totally irrelevant given the c…

Thanks. Can't put it as eloquently myself.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

#478

> conservative Christians are trying to eliminate ALL sexually-related speech online I don’t really appreciate this framing. Despite being a very conservative Christian (at least in many ways, if not others) I don’t approve of or agree with the scope of SCOTUS’ current ruling, nor do I approve of all the age- verification laws as written. It seems futile to attempt to make everybody everywhere do this and create a lo…

I come from a small town and know many conservative Christians. They are pushing for this. Like you said, it is easier to blame external sources than to accept you need to do better as parent.

Many of them are. I just don’t see any reason to say “I disagree with the conservative Christians pushing this” rather than “I disagree with the people who support this.” There are secular folks who also support such legislation. It hints at a generalized animus towards religion and likely in particular towards Christianity, kind of like Fox News boomers complaining Obama wouldn’t say “radical Islamic terrorism”.

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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post #459

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Yes: the cass review is very badly done and misinterprets the data available.

So you have no counter evidence?

If you actually wanted counter evidence I'm sure you could find it yourself. There's enough of it out there.

So, what is it that you're actually looking for?

Re: Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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post #217

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In this day and age lack of knowledge is no excuse. Especially when everyone who would have this particular "problem" has access to various search tools and video websites that would explain "solutions".

I feel like, to say that, you haven't tried helping many older adults — or even middle-aged adults — use technology. If my older family member was scammed by something online, and someone said "lack of knowledge is no excuse," I think they'd really be missing the mark. Or if they shouldn't reproduce because they aren't good with technology. It's a very HN take but it's one that lacks a lot of humanity.

Middle aged adults are millennials. This isn't the 90s anymore when middle aged people were raised on type writers.
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